[nq:1]Pet food companies advised against, [nq:2]Pet food companies advised against, [nq:2]Pet food

Liz:

Read what you wrote. You´re contradicting yourself. If you say that one pathogen could cause disease and be fatal and that you do not sterilize your food, how is it that you protect yourself from food poisoning?
[nq:1]A good dose of E. coli O157:H7, or a little enteric B. cereus, will cure you of that...[/nq]
First is one*. Then comes *a good dose*. There´s a world more to immunology than the little you were taught. Go to a poor country and you´ll start asking yourself *how can some people survive eating from the gutters, trash cans, and city dumps year after year. And you think these people have access to hospital if they get sick? Haha. If you were right, there wouldn´t be one poor person in this world. They´d all be dead by now. In India they throw their gutters in the Ganges river, they throw their dead in the Ganges, and they take their "purification" bath in the Ganges. Many get sick from their bath and many don´t, adults and children alike. How do you explain that? And don´t forget we are talking about a moving liquid media where pathogens spread quickly.
[nq:1]I'm not in vet school, so you're wrong again. Fool.[/nq]
I thought you wanted to become a vet and were at it by now. I guess I picked that up in one of your posts. Either way, you need to get your facts straight.

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Liz:

A great site to visit:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss4901a1.htm

It shows food poisoning outbreaks by state, by where food was eaten, by what kind of food was eaten, etc. Very interesting indeed.

Then, in another site, I confirmed what I already knew: 90% of all North Americans are malnourished. How can one fight disease if one is malnourished?
http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?PageType=Article&ID=518

Coincidentally, cancer is* the number one killer of cats in the USA according to Steve Crane. IMO, a cat without any raw in its diet *is a malnourished cat.

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Liz:

[nq:1]Pet food companies advised against raw meat[/nq]
Except for Wysong. That is one company I have a deep respect for because they show a deep respect for their customer. And Dr. Wysong is another one who says no animal can be 100% healthy without raw in its diet.

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PawsForThought:

[nq:2]Pet food companies advised against raw meat[/nq]
[nq:1]Except for Wysong. That is one company I have a deep respect for because they show a deep respect for their customer. And Dr. Wysong is another one who says no animal can be 100% healthy without raw in its diet.[/nq]
Oh yeah, I forgot about Wysong. I think they are completely different from any commercial pet food company I've ever seen.

See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

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Alison Perera:

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kaeli:

[nq:1]Oh yeah, I forgot about Wysong. I think they are completely different from any commercial pet food company I've ever seen.[/nq]
I actually found some Wysong at the Whole Foods near me. The cats wouldn't touch it. LOL
Pro Plan finally came out with wet food - the only other wet the kids will eat besides that horrible Fancy Feast. We've tried every brand I could find. That's all they like. sigh

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GAUBSTER2:

[nq:1]Pet food companies advised against raw meat (but of course they would) and vets did too because they had no ... had learned what they knew about feline nutrition from brochures from pet food companies or from pet food company reps.[/nq]
Which pet foods companies did you contact that "advised against raw meat" as you put it? I think you're making this up again.
[nq:1]I found a vet who had many years of experience feeding raw diets to cats.[/nq]
Sure you did.

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PawsForThought:

[nq:1]PHD pet foods also suggest using their kibble as part of a complete diet including plenty of raw meat.[/nq]
I've never heard of PHD. Are they available at pet food stores or do you have to order on line?

See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

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Alison Perera:

[nq:1]I've never heard of PHD. Are they available at pet food stores or do you have to order on line?[/nq]
They're only available online. phdproducts.com.
-Alison in OH

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