RE: Dogs and people food page 10

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flick:
[nq:1]Is it? I haven't really researched it, but I have to admit the anecdotal evidence for the benefits of feeding ... of a dog who has lived way past his "normal" life span, often he has been fed a raw diet.[/nq]
I have not heard the same.
[nq:1]I'd like to do a little informal survey. I'd like to hear from people whose dogs have lived over 15 years, and what the dogs have been fed. Should be interesting. :}[/nq]
Good survey. Could we add to it, please, that people should post who've fed their dogs the raw diet, what their version of the diet was, and if they had
problems with it.
[nq:1]Yes! I've heard a lot of horror stories about this. If a dog's system is not used to a higher ... he's been fed bits of hot dogs from young puppyhood as training treats, an adverse reaction would be less likely.[/nq]
I don't know that such bits of hot dog would transform the dog's total diet into a high-fat one.
[nq:1]So that's not really an argument against feeding raw, but it is a caution about changing your dog's diet suddenly.[/nq]
Very true re sudden diet change, IMO.
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elegy:
[nq:2]The raw diet as a healthy diet for dogs is a myth. A complete, total myth. A fraud. There is no science behind it.[/nq]
[nq:1]Is it? I haven't really researched it, but I have to admit the anecdotal evidence for the benefits of feeding ... from people whose dogs have lived over 15 years, and what the dogs have been fed. Should be interesting. :}[/nq]
my poodle was pts at 16 years, 9 months. she was fed crap food (purina) until she lost her home at the age of 15. she was then switched to hill's k/d because of her heart disease and elevated kidney values, which i kept her on for awhile because That Was What I Was Supposed To Do. she didn't like it. i had to hand feed her. i started reading and researching. i was horrified by what i learned about dog food ingredients in comparison to what was on the hill's bag. i eventually switched her to a ground raw diet (heavy on the veggies and including grain because she had to have a low phosphorus diet, appropriate calcium phosphorus ratios for failing kidneys, and ground because she had few toofers).
i forget the exact formulation i used now. it's all written down somewhere. she liked it. she did fine on it. she ate it willingly. her bloodwork improved while on it (in combination with switching her meds from one that is processed through the kidneys to one processed through the liver). she was pts eventually due to flat out senility.

she did, btw, have one bout of severe vomiting and elevated pancreatic values that was probably not a true pancreatitis. the vet suspected viral, but who knows. she was on k/d kibble at the time.
[nq:2]Too much fat can lead to terrible difficulties like pancreatitis. Even death:[/nq]
[nq:1]Yes! I've heard a lot of horror stories about this. If a dog's system is not used to a higher ... he's been fed bits of hot dogs from young puppyhood as training treats, an adverse reaction would be less likely.[/nq]
most of the cases of pancreatitis i've seen at work have come from either a) the dog getting into the trash or something they weren't supposed to have, or b) around the holidays when the owner does something brilliant like give the dog a whole pan full of turkey grease.
a raw diet really should not be that high in fat.
[nq:1]So that's not really an argument against feeding raw, but it is a caution about changing your dog's diet suddenly.[/nq]
i don't feed raw. i'm too lazy, mostly. my dogs eat evo and canidae. but i do feel that a well-done raw diet is superior to any kibble out there.

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