Housebreaking Border collie pup

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Anonymous:
HiWe have a pup (close to 7 months old) who's mostly border collie. She seems smart but housebreaking isn't going so well. The guy we got her from (she was around 6 weeks then, Ithink) paper trained the pups he was selling. Some facts: We have a fenced in backyard and that's where we take to take care of business. She has a cage where she sleeps at night and when we're not home. She almost never has accidents in the cage. We take her out frequently (every 2 hours)and she certainly knows what we want.

When you tell her "pee" she certainly seems to understand and she will go frequently in the yard. Naturally, we praise her when she does and give her a treat. But she's still having at least one accident a day in the house. We're never present when she does so I think she knows she's not supposed to do it. And if by any chance there's a newspaper left on the floor she's sure to pee on that (or close to it). but we don't really want to encourage her to pee there by leaving newspapers around.

Suggestions? Thanks! Henry
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Janet B:
[nq:1]But she's still having at least one accident a day in the house. We're never present when she does so ... close to it). but we don't really want to encourage her to pee there by leaving newspapers around. Suggestions? Thanks![/nq]
Welcome Henry - I'm assuming this is a urination "accident"? Have you had her checked for a UTI? Is she spayed yet?
When you say you're not present, where are you/where is she? Supervision is imperative. That means closing off rooms to keep her in your eyesight, using gates, etc. Cleaning the area is also important - is her chosen spot only where there's a newspaper (more vigilance needed!), or random? Carpet? hard floor?

Some of the "no-go" sprays on the market, are effective. A company called Pet Organics makes some that have worked well IME. Spraying a piece of newspaper and setting it out can help her learn that newspapers are off limits. I still wouldn't be in the habit of leaving them around, but it's a step that can be effective.
Janet Boss
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Anonymous:
Hi Janet,Thanks for the response. The pup (Sybille is her name) has been spayed. She did have a urinary infection at one point but that's been cleared up. Her accidents are mostly pee but occasionally poop. The latter pretty much stopped happening when we switched dog foods but seem to be happening more often again since we switched to a different brand (obviously we will just go back to the old one) We have hardwood floors and that's where she usually goes.

Would this spray you suggested be helpful on the floors? There are times when she has the run of the downstairs unsupervised and of course this is when the accidents happen. We're up and down a lot of course but we're not watching her the whole time. I suppose we could just keep her in her cage when we can't actually be downstairs with her (though I hate to keep her in there too much) Is that the thing to do? Henry
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Suja:
[nq:1]There are times when she has the run of the downstairs unsupervised and of course this is when the accidents ... be downstairs with her (though I hate to keep her in there too much) Is that the thing to do?[/nq]
A pup who is having trouble figuring out the whole concept of housebreaking should not be left unsupervised. Tether her to you (loop the leash through your belt loop) so that she goes with you wherever you're going. That way, you can catch her when she's showing signs that she's ready to go, and rush her outside. If tethering her to you is not feasible, tether her to an object in the same room you are if possible.
Suja
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Janet B:
[nq:1]Would this spray you suggested be helpful on the floors?[/nq]
I think the spray is more useful when it's a specific spot.
[nq:1]There are times when she has the run of the downstairs unsupervised and of course this is when the accidents happen.[/nq]
You know the answer - don't leave her downstairs unsupervised. Encourage her to follow you.
[nq:1]We're up and down a lot of course but we're not watching her the whole time. I suppose we could ... be downstairs with her (though I hate to keep her in there too much) Is that the thing to do?[/nq]
Nope. The thing to do is keep her with you - if you are not allowing her upstairs, she may be responding to stress about being left alone downstairs.

Janet Boss
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TaraG:
[nq:1]Hi Janet, Thanks for the response. The pup (Sybille is her name) has been spayed. She did have a urinary ... be downstairs with her (though I hate to keep her in there too much) Is that the thing to do?[/nq]
Not in my opinion. The spray isn't going to make that much difference for you (though it might later on when you've got this more under control). I would tether her to your waist, or at the very least, have her on leash in the house during the "danger times" (i.e. any time you would normally be leaving her loose and unsupervised..which should never be happening at this stage).
The fact that she only does this when you're not around does NOT show that she "knows" she's not supposed to do it, but rather its more likely that you've been correcting her for too long before you really taught her how to get this right*. She's learned that you hate to see her pee indoors, *not that peeing indoors is in and of itself "wrong". Big difference, especially to the youngster who is trying to figure out all of the rules without the ability to speak or understand your language.
Preventing those accidents are still your responsibility at this point. If you are correcting her (even if you're "catching her in the act"), please stop this. Its probably just confusing the issue.
Good luck!
Tara
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Anonymous:
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Anonymous:
[nq:2]Hi Janet, Thanks for the response. The pup (Sybille is ... in there too much) Is that the thing to do?[/nq]
[nq:1]Not in my opinion. The spray isn't going to make that much difference for you (though it might later on ... confusing the issue. Good luck! TaraThank you Tara, Janet and Suja for the helpufl suggestions. We'll give them a shot![/nq]
Henry
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