@fe03.lga: [nq:1]At minimum, I need, [nq:1]For future posters that want, [nq:1]For future

Rocky:

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[nq:1]A friend has a Border Collie Australian Shepherd mix. As a puppy, he was the closest thing to a Gund ... their hands off him. And then, one day, he lost his puppy coat. And a skinny DOG appeared! Poor Yogi.[/nq]
Rocky the Puppy's transition to Rocky the Dog was much the same, though he's still fuffy - just 50 pound fluffy.
[nq:1]His life was never the same after.[/nq]
Sigh, nor is Rocky's. Though he still believes it to be so, what with wanting to be on laps and all.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

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Marcel Beaudoin:

@fe03.lga:
[nq:1]At minimum, I need a dog that is very social with strangers,[/nq]
Define social?? Some of this is the breed characteristics, yet a great deal is also training.
[nq:1]not too independent (not pulling at the leash or[/nq]
This is all training. Every dog can be trained to not pull on the leash. The limiting factor here is how much time and effort you are willing to put into it. Some breeds will pick it up quickly, others will take longer.
[nq:1]running off after every squirrel we encounter when I go for my walk-n-reads)[/nq]
With most breeds, this is simply a matter of training. However ther are some breeds (sighthounds, terriers) that might be more difficult to train this out of. (if possible)

Marcel and Moogli
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Suja:

[nq:1]Please give a link to a respected source that has done research andreached this conclusion.[/nq]
How about if you make this a little easier and show one breeder of mutts who will fit the criteria in any of these links:
http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Fair/1901/chart.html http://dogplay.com/GettingDog/checklist.html
[nq:1]As I've mentioned, I am planning on getting a dog in Dallas when I move there.[/nq]
I'm a little confused here. Are you planning on keeping your apartment at 40-45 F year round?
[nq:1]If someone knows of an excellent breeder of Golden Retrievers and/or Labrador Retrievers in Dallas, I would appreciate the information.[/nq]
I'm fairly certain that there are folks here with ties to the retriever world. GRs and Labs are some of the most popular dogs in the country, and the rescues are just overflowing with dogs of these breeds. Good rescues will screen the applicant and dog for suitability, so you should end up with a good match.
Suja

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Judy:

[nq:1]For future posters that want a dog (doodle or other), a better way to have put this is might have ... Sure, stress dangers of doodle dogs if you like. This is meant as just a suggestion for future reference. :-)[/nq]
You just don't make it easy, do you? I was impressed at the amount of thought that you had put into what your life would be like with a dog and how you would handle it. Everyone should do all that. But then you put your blinders on and just haven't been listening to the answers to your questions.
We have pointed out that checklist to you. More than once. Read www.dog-play.com What you're looking for is there. So.. "Scott, here's a checklist that I would recommend you use when getting a dog..doodle or not...from a breeder." It's at www.dog-play.com

Doodle, lab, golden, any mix, any breed. The criteria for a responsible breeder is the same. And it's all addressed there. Doodle breeders should be held to the same standards that lab breeders should meet. And I think you'll find the website much friendlier toward mixed breeds than you expect. But not towards irresponsible breeders of any breed or combination.
And (apologies to the golden owners here) I have to tell you that a golden is not what I would picture as the ideal dog for someone who throws a couple of major parties a week. Very social dogs, yes. VERY SOCIAL DOGS. And an abundance of hair. (Not that the lab would be any better for shedding - it's just shorter.) I love dogs. I love friendly dogs. And I can get very tired of goldens.

I have dogs that require a great deal of attention and they don't even start to compete with the amount of attention the goldens I have known insist on. From the whole world. If your guests are the type that enjoy eating dinner with a golden head resting in their laps or sneakers being thrust into their laps - and covering their clothes with hair - then go for it.
Since you are now considering labs and goldens, apparently low-dander and low-shedding are no longer necessary for your perfect pet?

~~Judy

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Mary Healey:

[nq:1]For future posters that want a dog (doodle or other), a better way to have put this is might have ... a good one) of what I, a wannabe dog owner, should be using when getting a dog from a breeder.[/nq]
You mean, like http://dogplay.com/GettingDog/checklist.html ? You've been pointed to the dog-play site several times, by several people.
[nq:1]Regardless if it is a doodle dog or not. "Scott, here's a checklist that I would recommend you use when getting a dog ... doodle or not ... from a breeder."[/nq]
Scott, go to http://www.dog-play.com , enter "Getting a Dog" and browse around a bit. Really.

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Suja:

[nq:1]I didn't post to any such thread ... or at least that I recall.[/nq]
I didn't say you had. Just that you had responded to the same person who posted a thread about Poodles on a different newsgroup.
[nq:1]I never said I wasn't.[/nq]
Well, you seemed to be stuck on Poodles for some reason, and I for one, couldn't quite figure out why.
[nq:1]I am though looking at personality ("temperament"), energy level, build,and such that would fit my lifestyle. At minimum, I need a dog that is very social with strangers,[/nq]
While this can be a breed trait, it also has a whole lot to do with socialization. Improperly socialized dogs tend to not be good with people.
[nq:1]not too independent (not pulling at the leash[/nq]
This is a training issue. I don't know of any dogs that won't pull if you let them. I also don't know any dogs who can't be trained not to pull. I have a Malamute mix and a Great Dane who don't pull, and I know plenty of dogs, anything from Yorkies to Chows to Goldens ,who do pull because their owners never bothered to train them otherwise.
[nq:1]running off after every squirrel we encounter when I go for my walk-n-reads)[/nq]
While this is somewhat breed related, it can also be training related. Are you looking for a dog who will be reliable off-leash? How much work are you willing to put into it?
[nq:1]and can go boulder/mountain climbing with me.[/nq]
Which would be pretty much any healthy, active, moderate sized dog. And just because a dog is small in size doesn't mean that it won't do well with an active lifestyle. Some of the most energetic dogs I know are smaller in size.
Suja

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Judy:

At minimum, I need a dog that is very
[nq:1]social with strangers,[/nq]
Social or just friendly? For instance, I'm not so much into extremely social dogs. I like friendly dogs but dislike dogs that can demand too much attention - that are too needy of my instant love. I tend to like dogs that hang back a little - that are willing to be petted by strangers if they really want to but who don't require that. Do you really mean "very social with strangers" or are you after a dog that is friendly toward guests in your home?
[nq:1]not too independent (not pulling at the leash or running off after every squirrel we encounter when I go for my walk-n-reads),[/nq]
Assuming that the dog is on a leash, then this is more a matter of training than you might think. And it's probably as much a matter of individual temperament as it is breed.
[nq:1]and can go boulder/mountain climbing with me.[/nq]
This probably eliminates most smaller breeds. And some types of coats. But I can certainly picture a beagle or a Jack Russell taking a pretty good shot at it.
~~Judy

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shelly:

[nq:1]Please give a link to a respected source that has done research and reached this conclusion.[/nq]
it's a logic problem, and not a very difficult one, at that. in any event, you're asking the wrong question. what you should be asking is "how do i find the right dog for me," and, assuming you're set on buying a puppy, "how do i identify and locate a responsible breeder?"
[nq:1]Please give a link to a respected source that tells about this.[/nq]
you've been given a wonderful resource:
http://www.dog-play.com
[nq:1]For future posters that want a dog (doodle or other), a better way to have put this is might have ... a good one) of what I, a wannabe dog owner, should be using when getting a dog from a breeder.[/nq]
funnily enough, that information has been provided to you. you will have to do a little of the work on your own, though, but that's only fair. if you're not willing or able to put forth some effort to identify and locate the correct dog for you, then you oughtn't get a dog.
[nq:1]As I've mentioned, I am planning on getting a dog in Dallas when I move there. If someone knows of ... the information. I would think that it would be a good idea to get a dog from a local breeder.[/nq]
it might be, or it might not. insisting on purchasing a pup locally will seriously limit your options.

shelly
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Mary Healey:

[nq:1]... Do you really mean "very social with strangers" or are you after a dog that is friendly toward guests in your home?[/nq]
Good point. There's a load of difference between vaguely friendly towards strangers, attention-hog pushiness, and "deigns to let the guests live another moment or two". I prefer my dogs to be indifferent to strangers.
[nq:2]and can go boulder/mountain climbing with me.[/nq]
[nq:1]This probably eliminates most smaller breeds. And some types of coats. But I can certainly picture a beagle or a Jack Russell taking a pretty good shot at it.[/nq]
I'm thinking Vallhund. That's what they're bred to do, right?

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