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Abby Pennington:

[nq:1]Yep. And Dr. Thomas, who contributes to the list, has warned against clients insisting upon specific anaesthesia protocols. It's more important that the vet is knowledgable with the anesthetic to be used rather than experiment with one that's less familiar.[/nq]
In general, I will wholeheartedly agree with that! However, if a vet told me s/he wanted to use halothane or ace instead of isoflurane or sevoflurane, I'd question that. But I suspect you would, as well. But yes, in most cases, best to let the protocol be chosen by the Doc. Emotion: smile

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Gwen Watson:

[nq:1]What makes you feel that medication is necessary? If you can be more specific about what issues you're worried about I bet people will come up with some suggestions for you. Dianne[/nq]
Blade can really be a pill traveling. He tends
to chase motorcycles, 18 wheelers, peditrians
while traveling. It can become very nerve
wracking to say the least. And he is
in a crate the entire time. Now one thing
that does help is covering his crate with a
sheet but somehow I feel bad doing that
for long trips.
Gwen

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John F Richardson:

[nq:1]Now one thing that does help is covering his crate with a sheet but somehow I feel bad doing that for long trips.[/nq]
(1) Why?
(2) Might a Vari-Kennel (or crate
of similar design) help?
JohnR
Pit Bull Libertarian
Never sneer at the power of a little
pink squeaky toy!

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Gwen Watson:

[nq:2]Now one thing that does help is covering his crate with a sheet but somehow I feel bad doing that for long trips.[/nq]
[nq:1](1) Why? (2) Might a Vari-Kennel (or crate of similar design) help? JohnR Pit Bull Libertarian Never sneer at the power of a little pink squeaky toy![/nq]
I don't know why John. I am probably anthromorphizing too much. I guess I know I wouldn't want to be traveling for
16 straight hours without being able to see out. Sortof like traveling with a blindfold on.
And no Vari-Kennel doesn't help because he can still see. Besides they aren't as convient when traveling as a Midwest foldup kind, which is what I need for this trip.
So I guess with this response the
"sheet" it is. I still see the sheet as
stressful but I am sure that is wrongful
thinking.
Gwen

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dianne marie schoenberg:

[nq:1]I don't know why John. I am probably anthromorphizing too much. I guess I know I wouldn't want to be ... response the "sheet" it is. I still see the sheet as stressful but I am sure that is wrongful thinking.[/nq]
Yep, that *is* wrongful thinking. If Blade is crate-trained (and it sounds like he is) then being in a covered crate should be nothing more than a signal to go to sleep. As far as the 16-hours thing goes.. you really should be stopping for a leg-stretch every 2 hours or so for both humans' and dogs' sake.
Look at it this as a training issue (which it is). You can tranquilize him for this one trip, which will prevent you from being annoyed but will make him feel funny. On the other hand, you can take a longer-range view and use this as an opportunity to train him to be quiet in the car.
If putting the sheet on the crate keeps him quiet, do it. Better yet, leave the crate uncovered until he fusses, then cover it. Repeat after each stop. If he wants to look out the windows, he will quickly learn that fussing earns him a sheet on the crate. He's a smart boy. He'll figure it out.
Finally, there's a major benefit to HIM in this approach... if you can trust him to behave nicely in the car, you are much more likely to take him on errands & such with you. I don't know why dogs consider that such a treat... whether my dogs are left in the car or not, whether they can see out or now, they've always been crazy about going with me.

Good luck, and have a nice trip.
Dianne

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Gwen Watson:

[nq:1]Yep, that *is* wrongful thinking. If Blade is crate-trained (and it sounds like he is) then being in a covered ... goes.. you really should be stopping for a leg-stretch every 2 hours or so for both humans' and dogs' sake.[/nq]
Yes we will Dianne by all means. I will definitely use the sheet instead.
[nq:1]Look at it this as a training issue (which it is). You can tranquilize him for this one trip, which ... can take a longer-range view and use this as an opportunity to train him to be quiet in the car.[/nq]
Well since he will be in a crate because we are
obtaining a rental SUV because our vehicles
have too many miles. It is sort of the requirement. But I prefer them in crates anyway. I know you
are quite correct.
[nq:1]If putting the sheet on the crate keeps him quiet, do it. Better yet, leave the crate uncovered until he ... will quickly learn that fussing earns him a sheet on the crate. He's a smart boy. He'll figure it out.[/nq]
Nodding head. Well it isn't like he fusses. He uses it as an opportunity to have prey drive FUN! It isn't really fussing it is full blown chasing, even though he can't run. At times he is quiet. When we take
him in Steve's Pickup he is much better in the
backseat. But again part of the rental with
Enterprise is that they are to be crated. I don't need to pay more than I already am.
[nq:1]Finally, there's a major benefit to HIM in this approach... if you can trust him to behave nicely in the ... see out or now, they've always been crazy about going with me. Good luck, and have a nice trip. Dianne[/nq]
Oh we take him all the time. I insist. And really in Steve's truck he can be better. Even in my SUV he will quiet down often. But then he gets on a roll for about 30 minutes, cows, motorcycles, 18 wheelers. These are so fun
to bark at you know.
Thanks Dianne for this message. I know you are right. He doesn't need to be medicated he needs assertiveness.

Gwen

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