RE: Survivorman page 2

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Shelly:
[nq:1]I've told people a million times[/nq]
Ha! Maybe the same holds true for humans?
[nq:1]not to repeat commands to their dogs. Some, like my brother, can't help themselves.[/nq]
Maybe it's a sort of nervous tick, like saying "um" or clearing your throat?

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Rocky:
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[nq:1]If you want to use "standard" mushing terminology, those are "come gee" and "come haw."[/nq]
I plan on combining gee and haw with agility obstacle names. Adding "come" would be too much verbage, especially since "come" means, well, come.
For example, when Friday is doing agility, especially distance stuff, he checks in on me for his next cue. If he's coming from an obstacle where he can't see me (like a tunnel) and I want to immediately direct him to someplace else, he'll close in on me for his cue and the judge's whistle will blow. Damn judges.
He reacts well to my physical signals in situations where he can see me, but not where he can't. So, since I've started Maybe in on hand signals for directional turns, I'll add a verbal - something I never did with Friday. So "Gee walk-on" will mean "turn 180 to the right and take the dogwalk." That's the theory.
I guess that I'll be ruining a potential mushing career for Maybe.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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Melinda Shore:
[nq:1]He reacts well to my physical signals in situations where he can see me, but not where he can't. So, ... did with Friday. So "Gee walk-on" will mean "turn 180 to the right and take the dogwalk." That's the theory.[/nq]
That's cool, and there's really no reason to stick to standard mushing terminology. Who knows - maybe (ding!) what you're doing will catch on and you'll have invented a whole new dog training dialect (ding ding!).
[nq:1]I guess that I'll be ruining a potential mushing career for Maybe.[/nq]
Darn! BTW, Karen Ramstead is hosting a "Fall Warmup Weekend" this weekend up in Perryvale. That's probably out-of-the-way for you and of limited interest, but she's inviting anybody who wants to train or who's interested in sleddogs, and she's apparently going to have scooters and whatnot available for people who just have one or two dogs.
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Rocky:
[nq:2]So "Gee walk-on" will mean "turn 180 to the right and take the dogwalk." That's the theory.[/nq]
[nq:1]That's cool, and there's really no reason to stick to standard mushing terminology. Who knows - maybe (ding!) what you're doing will catch on and you'll have invented a whole new dog training dialect (ding ding!).[/nq]
Many agility handlers already do something similar ("flip" for a turn-out, for example) but I'd like to generalise it, what with Maybe being so smart and all. It took 4 meals to teach her "get in" (come to my left side and sit) but we've yet to generalise it to situations where I'm not holding the supper dish.

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Judy:
[nq:1]Many agility handlers already do something similar ("flip" for a turn-out, for example) but I'd like to generalise it, what with Maybe being so smart and all.[/nq]
I've never heard anyone around here say "flip" but "right" and "left" are pretty common. Well, not with my dogs, but I've been thinking about it. And it's on my list of commands for the next dog.

So why not Gee and Haw? (I'm trying to picture which dogs it would be funnier to use Gee and Haw for - a Yorkie or a Great Dane?) And, of course, I'd have to remember which is which.
Couldn't have been any worse than last weekend when I was yelling TURN - at a volume where I swear every other dog in the park was TURNING - and what I really should have been yelling was Come or Here or Spenser (choose one - any of them would have brought him toward me rather than away from me to that off-course tunnel).
[nq:1]It took 4 meals to teach her "get in" (come to my left side and sit) but we've yet to generalise it to situations where I'm not holding the supper dish.[/nq]
Today with the supper dish, tomorrow with a single treat.

It'll happen sooner than you think.
Last weekend Spenser was an absolutely, rock-steady, perfect dog. I'm not at all clear on how that came about but I must have had something to do with it.
Before our next trial, I, OTOH, need to order that T-shirt that says "Watch me and learn stupid handler tricks". I think I did them all - including taking a turn and rolling my ankle over and landing not-too-ceremoniously on the ground. When I realized Spenser stopped and came over to check on me, I immediately looked up to see if the judge was signalling a refusal. (Not competitive. Uh-uh.) She wasn't, so I got up quickly and because I was turned around and slightly lost, got a refusal on the next jump. Still finished under time though.
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Melinda Shore:
[nq:1]So why not Gee and Haw? (I'm trying to picture which dogs it would be funnier to use Gee and Haw for - a Yorkie or a Great Dane?) And, of course, I'd have to remember which is which.[/nq]
Some mushers ink 'G' and 'L' on their mittens with magic marker. Once you give a directional command you're committed, at least you are if you don't want to mess up your dogs.
[nq:1]Couldn't have been any worse than last weekend when I was yelling TURN - at a volume where I swear every other dog in the park was TURNING[/nq]
My vet said that she was camping last weekend in Chenango County and there was an agility trial going on at the time - was that you? She said that the dogs looked really slow because of the heat.

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Rocky:
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[nq:1]I've never heard anyone around here say "flip" but "right" and "left" are pretty common. Well, not with my dogs, but I've been thinking about it. And it's on my list of commands for the next dog.[/nq]
"Flip" is somewhat common here. "Right" and "left" are generally used for wider turns at a distance, so I'm reserving those words.
Plus, I think that Gee and Haw sound cooler.

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Judy:
[nq:1]My vet said that she was camping last weekend in Chenango County and there was an agility trial going on at the time - was that you? She said that the dogs looked really slow because of the heat.[/nq]
Yup. At least I'd guess so. We were at Chenango Valley State Park. Three days of it. One of the few trials we get to do and still sleep at home each night.
And yes, the heat did most of them in. We even skipped out early on Saturday because of it. We had done the two primary courses for AKC. There was a really nice run in the third class but it's primarily for fun - doesn't count in with the regular progression of titles - and we decided that *I* wanted to do it WAY more than they did.
We decided that agility is supposed to be fun for the dogs as well as the handlers - and the dogs were not having fun in that heat.

So we came home and took naps in the AC. I'm hoping that it made for better runs on Sunday - although with Spenser's lousy handler, it was difficult to say for sure.
Judy
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Judy:
[nq:1]Plus, I think that Gee and Haw sound cooler.[/nq]
WAY cooler.
I'm still trying to picture using them for a Yorkie. Or even a Pap.

They almost make sense for the Great Dane that a friend runs. So much that it actually would be cool in itself!
And, of course, it makes no matter what words you use. I considered Port and Starboard - but while Port works okay, Starboard is a little long to get out in time.
That Great Dane had an experience this past weekend that had all the guys in the area wincing. He had gotten "hung up" on the weave poles a couple of times in the past (yes, he's intact) but AKC added a couple of inches to their poles and it had helped him a lot. This time his handler got a little ahead of him and he got bouncing in the poles to try to speed up to catch her. When she looked back, he had four poles caught under him and he was only able to put one hind foot down at a time so was having trouble freeing himself.
She went back and "saved" him. The judge was really great about it. Even though the handler had touched the dog, she encouraged her to still make a course out of some of the obstacles and finish with the dog happy.

Later in the day, they were faced with weaves on another course. We all watched and held our breath. The dog went straight into them and never blinked once - all twelve poles and not a single hesitation. When he came out of that twelfth pole and turned for the next jump, the crowd burst out in cheers. It was a great example of the spirit of agility and its competitors.
Judy
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