RE: What does "bupkis" really mean page 13

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Anonymous:
[nq:1] AmStaffs are relatively easy. Great sense of humor, smart, biddable, and straightforward. What's so damned tough about anAmStaff, anyway?[/nq]
I dunno. All those who pretend to know anything about AmStaffs must be crazy. I'm sure they never saw a dog - the pictures on their sites are faked: Photoshop creations. Staffs don't even exist, Mary, those are kittens in disguise.
[nq:1]And how is that not easy?[/nq]
I dunno, it wasn't me who wrote that "training can be a challenge because of their pushy yet sensitive character". I only QUOTED it, Mary - CAN you understand the difference?
[nq:2]To get the same wonderful results. Thanks, I think that ... prettyunchallenging guy. Without even having to castrate him, for that.[/nq]
[nq:1] He doesn't sound terribly challenging at all. Boring, infact. Dull. Ordinary.[/nq]
You know what? I like him just fine when he's "boring" like that. Believe me, I can do WITHOUT the excitement of finding the content of the garbage bin spread all over the living-room, for instance.
[nq:2]And I'm still waiting for the exact reference of the source fromwhich Jerry has "plagiarized" his method. But I bet that YOU don't haveit, either.[/nq]
[nq:1]twillis had it up somewhere, iirc.[/nq]
But you don't. As neither does Robin, or shelly.
[nq:2]By the kind of problems you guys are having with your ownchallenging dogs, I'd say the last sentence is hardly an accurate approximationof the truth.[/nq]
[nq:1]Nonsense. My most challenging dog was Sam, and I expect that to holdtrue for another dozen or so dogs. He ... things. You seemunder the impression that behaviors described a decade ago persist to thepresent day, and that simply isn't true.[/nq]
Well, I'd suggest to just ask shelly when she took one of her dogs to the vet after a fight with her other dog. Hint: the month was April; you guess what year.
[nq:1]Then I got Noah, and a whole 'nother world of challenges opened up.But if I had to name my easiest dog, Noah might be it.[/nq]
Bonnie has always been easy for me. I wish *I* was as easy for her! She has been my first dog, and it was SHE who trained me - all the good things that I learned, I've learned them from her, and they were in the spirit of Jerry's manual. That explains the appeal that Jerry's method had for me, right from the beginning, when I started to read the manual which is so incomprehensible for you all: it was exactly what my dogs (especially Bonnie) had been trying to teach me, all along! My only regret is that I hadn't discovered it earlier.
Lucy
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Mary Healey:
[nq:2] AmStaffs are relatively easy. Great sense of humor, smart, biddable, and straightforward. What's so damned tough about an AmStaff, anyway?[/nq]
[nq:1]I dunno. All those who pretend to know anything about AmStaffs must be crazy.[/nq]
Well, yeah. Most of 'em seem to own AmStaffs. I don't, but I've had a dozen or so of the bully breed dogs in various classes, and those dogs aren't the ones I worry about.
[nq:1]I'm sure they never saw a dog - the pictures on their sites are faked: Photoshop creations. Staffs don't even exist, Mary, those are kittens in disguise.[/nq]
Nah. Kittens are nasty little critters with sharp teefies and an inclination to attack anything that moves. AmStaffs are smiley, joyous, peaceable types. With people, anyway.
[nq:1]I dunno, it wasn't me who wrote that "training can be a challenge because of their pushy yet sensitive character". I only QUOTED it, Mary - CAN you understand the difference?[/nq]
Sure. I did presume you were quoting something you thought supported your position, was that in error?
"Their natural temperament towards people is gentle and loving." That's easy. "Their natural temperament is to pretend you don't exist, and when encouraged to acknowledge you they consider you a tasty snack", now, THAT would be difficult. Pushy/sensitive is easy because it's still people-oriented.
[nq:1]You know what? I like him just fine when he's "boring" like that.[/nq]
As you should. But don't mis-represent his temperament as a challenge. It very well might have been to you, but in different hands he might have been ho-hum from the start, or been a source of continuing frustration.
Of course, if his AmStaff half is subsumed in, say, Dachshund, Jindo, or Corgi, all bets are off.
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Suja:
[nq:1]As an aside, what do y'all define as an "easy dog"?[/nq]
I've got two at home. I guess if I've lived with them and gone stark raving mad, they must be easy enough.
Between the two, Pan is my easier dog. She's happy as long as she gets enough exercise, is fed, and can be with her people (or person). She'll be okay with Lucy, unless she tries to train using "enthusiastic" anything.

Khan, I would love to see in her hands. Actually, maybe not, 'cause I'm not entirely sure if he would survive. And she may have a heart attack, 'cause he would try and eat her bunnies, and groundhogs and deer and ..

Suja
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Debbie S:
Wanna hear what an AmStaff trainer thinks of what that 'AmStaff site' has to say about ASTs?
Didn't think so.
Debbie
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Debbie S:
Well, that explains a lot.
Debbie
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Anonymous:
[nq:1]Hey! Who's this Utah and why hasn't he been introduced already? Pictures please![/nq]
Oh, some scam artist sold Dianne a dyed-black mop and told her it was a Briard puppy. Humor her. She's totally lost it. Last weekend she was throwing the thing at sheep so it could "herd".
P.S. Any rumors that above-mentioned scam artist is in any way associated with HarCo Insturstries are LIES! LIES! LIES!
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Anonymous:
[nq:1]The only people who have completely trained dogs are those peoplewhose own mental faculties are so low that they can only progress to acertain level.[/nq]
You know, sometimes I feel really guilty that I haven't done more with Harlan. We haven't done any real training for years and years. I often think another more go-getter trainer would have been able to do some real competing with him, and have a bit of a twinge over wasted potential.
On the other hand, I did buy the beast his own farm with lots of fun stuff to roll around in, not to mention farrier visits every few months, and he gets to do a weekly gig at the nursing home, so it's not like he's completely deprived. So the guilt is short-lived.
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