This black labrador that ate the French woman's face while she was sleeping...what the hell's up with that? What would compel the evil beast to do such a thing? I should think that this mutt is a glaring exception to the cliche that "all dogs go to heaven." This particular hound should burn in hell, after some earthly kicking and torturing, wouldn't you agree?
I suppose you'll tell me that this dog was only doing what came "natural" to it, right?
JB
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This black labrador that ate the French woman's face while she was sleeping...what the hell's up with that?

from what I read when it first happened, apparently the dog was trying to wake her from a drunken/drugged stupor.
What would compel the evil beast to do such a thing?

desperately trying to rouse it's owner it seems.
This particular hound should burn in hell, after some earthly kicking and torturing, wouldn't you agree?

Nope - don't really know all of the details, and like those and facts before making any proclamations.
I suppose you'll tell me that this dog was only doing what came "natural" to it, right?

Natural? who knows - once again - not enough information detail. Trying to wake it's owner and frustration at not being able to? possibly.

Janet B
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Exactly. IIRC, the woman was mentally unstable, had attempted suicide by drugs and was attacked by the dog at some point. My suspicion is that there was a whole lot of thrashing around, screaming and ranting going on.
This was the reason the initial publicity was somewhat stifled... The docs involved were (justifiably) wary of questions related to the patient's psych status and suitability for the rigors of a post-transplant regime.
Apparently the woman has decided it's okay to resume her smoking habit as well. Given everything that's known about the effects of smoking on healing and tissue health, I bet her docs are wishing they'd just said "no".

Kathleen
This black labrador that ate the French woman's face while she was sleeping...what the hell's up with that?...

Having so few facts, who knows what happened? She didn't realize anything was wrong, until she discovered she couldn't hold a cigarette in her mouth.

Maybe her face was on fire and the dog chomped at the flames until they were extinguished. Maybe the dog was starving, and her face smelled like food.

Seeing that the woman is so fond of smoke and fire, she ought to be the one sent to hell! The dog probably deserves a medal at least, a better guardian.

Practice safe eating - always use condiments.
from what I read when it first happened, apparently the ... drunken/drugged stupor. desperately trying to rouse it's owner it seems.

Exactly. IIRC, the woman was mentally unstable, had attempted suicide by drugs and was attacked by the dog at some ... about the effects of smoking on healing and tissue health, I bet her docs are wishing they'd just said"no". Kathleen

So people who smoke or have psychiatric issues shouldn't have medical care? I agree there is probably something being held back from the story but it's kinda nasty to say her doctors would regret helping a patient who smoked. I hope you are a insurance-chart-perfect weight, don't drink too much coffee, get 8 hours of sleep and exercise at least 1 hour per day yourself. Otherwise someone on Usenet might suggest YOU aren't worthy of medical care.
So people who smoke or have psychiatric issues shouldn't have medical care? I agree there is probably something being held ... exercise at least 1 hour per day yourself. Otherwise someone on Usenet might suggest YOU aren't worthy of medical care.

Typical smoker in denial.
You're killing your poor dog along with you who has no choice and has to breathe the smoke!
jw
So people who smoke or have psychiatric issues shouldn't have medical care? I agree there is probably something being held ... exercise at least 1 hour per day yourself. Otherwise someone on Usenet might suggest YOU aren't worthy of medical care.

Smoking waay reduces the chances of success of some types of operations. Reattachment of fingers and toes, for instance, and probably this face transplant, bec. of the bad effects smoking has on circulation. Those are all examples of elective surgery - they don't save your life with 'em, like a stent in your heart, say. So the standards to do them are different.

AFAICT, it's within accepted medical practice for a doctor to refuse to perform certain types of operations if there is little chance of success due to things like the patient's smoking. Doesn't mean another doctor wouldn't do the surgery. Come to think of it, perhaps the doc's malpractice insurance comes into play here, too.
I've heard of doctors not performing surgery on people who are very overweight, too. Unless it's for something immediately life-threatening like appendicitis.
Why do you think you have various lab tests and have your heart checked before an operation?
flick 100785
So people who smoke or have psychiatric issues shouldn't have medical

care?

She neither said nor implied anything of the sort. Hyperbole much?
I agree there is probably something being held back from the story but

it's kinda nasty to say her doctors would regret helping a patient who smoked.

That's not even remotely close to what she said. The point- which obviously went completely over your head - is that in THIS PARTICULAR CASE, smoking greatly reduces the chance of the treatment succeeding.

It's not "being nasty" to say that if the transplant fails due to the woman's resumption of smoking, the physicians may have some cause for regret.
And it *is* significant that she wouldn't have have suffered the injuries in the first place if she didn't have major substance abuse problems - has nothing to do with her being "deserving" of medical care, but IS something that any surgeon has to calculate into risks when deciding whether or not to perform a procedure, because the substance abuse problems affect whether or not the procedure will succeed long term.
To give you a real example of a another such decision, which has gone another way:
My mother has severe oestoarthritis in her knees - she is in constant pain, and has difficulty getting up and down the stairs, in and out of chairs, the car, finds it difficult to walk more than a very short distance, and has fallen a number of times because her knees have failed to support her.
Her knees COULD be surgically replaced, which would alleviate a great deal of the problem, but her doctor will not consider it. Why? Because she's also 84 years old, overweight, has very little muscle tone, has a bad heart (she has a pacemaker), and also suffers from mild dementia (in lay language, she's very forgetful).
She is a poor risk for surgery, AND a poor risk both for successful physical therapy after the operation and for properly following other after-care procedures.
It has nothing to do with value judgements or being "deserving", but with the logic of weighing benefit against risk.
I hope you are a insurance-chart-perfect weight, don't drink too much

coffee,

get 8 hours of sleep and exercise at least 1 hour per day yourself.

I always find it interesting how people who accuse others of being "nasty" so often turn around and act that way themselves a few sentences later..
This black labrador that ate the French woman's face while she was sleeping...what the hell's up with that?...

Having so few facts, who knows what happened? She didn't realize anything was wrong, until she discovered she couldn't hold ... sent to hell! The dog probably deserves a medal at least, a better guardian. Practice safe eating - always use condiments.

Unfortunately, the poor dog was euthanized.
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