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I'm really and truly sorry for all of the dogs' injuries, but were you out there with them?

Given that Orson's blind, and the yard's not fenced yet, I'm betting Cate actually had him on leash.

Nope, no leash. He always makes a beeline for the back yard, and has never strayed from that beeline, coming or going. I don't actually go with him down the deck steps and into the yard.
Actually, I do now. Since Monday night.
Cate
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Maybe with an owner that isn't as concerned as I am about a feud between neighbors.

This might be a good point to hammer home when discussing things with your neighbor. You know, "I've always liked you and I understand dogs and you and I have always gotten along, but I'm afraid that in the future you might not be so lucky, and I certainly wouldn't want you to have to put your dog down, or for you to get sued" etc etc. I think with clueless people it's helpful to frame things in terms of their own self-interest.

Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Rosalie the calico
Orson paid with bite wounds, 3 vet visits, surgery, a drain in his leg, a scary swollen frankenfoot, a nasty limp, aggravated arthritis, and 10 days of no exercise.

Poor guy! Hope he feels better soon.
How much, if any, would you ask the neighbor to pay toward the vet bills, if the following were true:

I would definitely ask for half. If I were the neighbor, I'd pay for the whole thing myself, just to keep the neighborly relations friendly.

Please make sure that this gets reported to AC. At a minimum, AC will make sure that the dog is UTD on his rabies, and quarantine the dog. Unless this dog has been reported before, she most likely won't be PTS, but the owners will be required to take additional precautions prior to taking the dog out. Neither Orson nor someone else's innocent dog needs to be subject to this.

Suja
Please make sure that this gets reported to AC. At a minimum, AC will make sure that the dog is ... precautions prior to taking the dog out. Neither Orson nor someone else's innocent dog needs to be subject to this.

there's no second chance in Baltimore city. This dog would undoubtedly be killed.

Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
There is no fence between our neighbors' house and ours (yet). We have an informal system with them. We've each ... is somewhat assuaged knowing I was able to hold the 100lb dog to keep it from potentially becoming a 2-on-1.

Poor Orson, I hope he is feeling better soon.
My lesson, for anyone who needs one, is no matter how many times something has worked in the past, don't ... dogs before. - Both you and the neighbor were negligent as far as making sure no one was already outside.

Cate, have you spoken with the neighbors yet about this? Maybe they'll just volunteer up front an amount. If not, I would push for half. JMO.

Beth
I find it absolutely unbelievable that a dog-aggressive dog would ever be off-leash

Of course, I meant "off-leash in an uncontained area."

Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Rosalie the calico
If I were the neighbor I think I'd offer to ... willingness to correct the problem, somewhat on their financial circumstances).

Right after it happened, the owner did, more or less, offer to pay. He actually said "let me know how ... share in the negligence that created the situation, so it was probably my guilt that led me to refuse money.

Legally, that may be true, mostly because you both agreed on that system for letting your dogs out. But he's the one whose dog is dog aggressive, and attacked your dog on your property.

How's Orson doing?
Mustang Sally
there's no second chance in Baltimore city. This dog would undoubtedly be killed.

Wow! That's pretty strict. I know that the local ordinances here allow for a dog deemed 'dangerous' to continue to live, as long as the owners follow the rules. A dog deemed 'vicious' will be PTS.
http://www.co.fairfax.va.us/police/animalservices/dangerous.htm

Suja
Cate, have you spoken with the neighbors yet about this? Maybe they'll just volunteer up front an amount. If not, I would push for half. JMO.

I left them a very nice phone message when Orson was in surgery on Tuesday but didn't mention an amount or ask for anything other than to talk. I also asked about their dog, because while I didn't see Orson biting back, I can't be sure if she was uninjured herself.

They haven't called me back. I think I'm giving them until tonight to respond, and then I'll be more brusque in my invitation to come over, see Orson's injuries (his bandages come off tomorrow and his leg will look particularly gruesome), and have a chat.
Cate
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