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Well, this is what scares the living crap out of me. The attacking dog was 40 pounds, and despite my ... passing dog is attacked. Maybe with an owner that isn't as concerned as I am about a feud between neighbors.

i didn't realize the dogs were running about all over the neighborhood. yes, that is a concern. fortunately, i don't think most dogs learn that type of "kill kill kill" aggression. thank goodness.

-kelly
Actually, our properties abut each other, with no fence in between. There is no agreement to share any property. It's ... to park our cars in a way such that their dogs have obstacles if they do come onto our property.

got it. i thought system = agreement. i misunderstood.
I agree that I have to take measures to protect my dog due to this situation. And I feel negligent. ... property. This is the point at which the burden is on them to keep their dogs on their own property.

yes, their dogs should be leashed at all times if they can't control their aggressive dog. besides, walking dogs is good exercise. believe me, i'm finding this out (dropped two jeans sizes since firing the dog walker. walking two high energy dogs is a work out and a half!)

-kelly
i can. i have coyotes and bobcats to watch for, as well as deer, rabbits and other distractions. anyone without ... none of mine do, so i check for their dogs too before we go out. management and all that. -kelly

I would probably watch even if our back door opened directly into a contained area, but mostly because of Orson's blindness. Despite that or maybe because of it he has enormous prey drive and would be likely to kill a squirrel or rabbit if he caught one back there. He often pronks around, chasing out birdies and such. One day he killed a baby bird that had fallen from its nest. I did see it on the ground before I let him out, but it was a starling, so I said "Darwin rules!" and let Orson rip.
Cate
If I were in your place, I'd be telling him that I want to maintain a friendly relationship, and I ... take legal action, but that I won't be able to live with myself if another dog gets hurt or killed.

I think that this is a practicable approach. What with Cate's willingness to "deal" on a fence, I think that most neighbours would agree.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
i didn't realize the dogs were running about all over the neighborhood. yes, that is a concern.

Actually, I was referring to dogs being walked on leash on the street next to their house. But now that you mention it, there are a few jackasses in the neighborhood that apparently puposely let their dogs out to roam.
Cate
I'm trying not to inject my emotions into this, but yeah, they're not exactly models of responsibility. It's also ironic ... tiny, harsh-looking fighting crops. When the male was a puppy, the owners delighted in having him wear a spiked collar.

i was going to say wait to report it to see their response, but after hearing this, i'd say report it. i hate these kind of pit owners. they make the rest of us look bad.
i saw a pit on the street the other day with a heavy chain around his neck and somehow going through his mouth (!). the guy said it was to make his jaw stronger.
i told him that a nice beef femur would do a better job, and without knocking all his teeth loose.
-kelly
i can. i have coyotes and bobcats to watch for, ... too before we go out. management and all that. -kelly

I would probably watch even if our back door opened directly into a contained area, but mostly because of Orson's ... ground before I let him out, but it was a starling, so I said "Darwin rules!" and let Orson rip.

Heh. Go Orson. Having dogs that primarily use their sight to hunt, I got a very funny, cute mental image of Orson pronking around chasing things...
Mustang Sally
I just woke him up because he was yelping in his sleep, poor guy. He's doing pretty well, though. The ... doesn't have to do stairs any more than necessary. The range of motion in the leg has improved a lot.

oh, poor guy. i feel terrible for him.
Manu had was was nearly a Very Bad Incident with the neighbor's old Lab when we first moved here, and watching the Lab limp around for a couple days nearly broke my heart (he has arthritis anyway, i think the shaking he got just made it worse). the neighbors refused vet treatment because he didn't have any bad wounds, but i nearly drove him there myself. thankfully, he was back to himself after a few days.
he's not allowed in our yard anymore. it's sad, he sits on the other side of the fence and wags his tail and whines. :-(
i really hope Orson feels better soon.
-kelly
I would probably watch even if our back door opened ... starling, so I said "Darwin rules!" and let Orson rip.

Heh. Go Orson. Having dogs that primarily use their sight to hunt, I got a very funny, cute mental image of Orson pronking around chasing things...

sigh
doing the Buddhist thing has me all kinds of conflicted on the dogs killing things. i know they want the bunnies bad. they know where they live, they chase them, and i call them off because i don't want them killing innocent creatures. i have to remember that it's part of the circle of life and all that. but they weren't bred to hunt other animals, right? is that a good enough excuse? Hindus believe that dogs can meditate and chant mantras with you. they believe that this will help the dog attain a human form in the next life. i'd love to meet Manu walking down the street when i'm 80 or so... :-)
sigh
now i'm getting all philosophical again. crud.
-kelly
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