We have a pregnant *** at our shelter - any time now. She is a sweet dog and I am considering fostering her and her pups after whelping til they are old enough to go up for adoption. If anyone has experience doing this, or you breeders, can you tell me if I would regret the amount of work this is going to entail? How did your resident dogs do with the mom and pups? Thanks
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We just went through this. A female we said we'd take delivered in the shelter, unexpectedly..or at least it was unknown to us that she was preggo. Her foster mom has a 3-legged cat, a female Boxer and a very dominant male Boxer. There was no question for me of her being allowed to be near the other dogs or vice versa. In our experience with bitches who have litters on the ground (could be a Boxer specific thing), the females will become highly aggressive towards other dogs until the pups are weaned.

Peaches ended up living with her puppies in a climate-controlled garage attached to the house and was given the use of the backyard (thru a doggy door) while the volunteer's pets were made to use the front yard. The pups are now 8.5 weeks old and it was around the age of 5 weeks that they were introduced to the other dogs. Peaches had no problem with that and she actually seemed glad for both the break (having the pups badger the other dogs) and for the companionship as well. The very dominant male, who doesn't tolerate many dogs easily, is the mother hen of the puppies which is funny. They follow him everywhere and he is their self-appointed babysitter.
As to their living arrangements, we bought a kiddie pool, put blankets on one side and newspapers on the other. Peaches also had a separate dog bed of her own, situated in front of a fan, so she could get away from the always-hungry babies and cool off when needed because the garage was kept at
90 degrees during the first two weeks for the puppies' sake. Once theystarted being able to climb, we ditched the kiddie pool in favor of an x-pen type setup with a big pillow set off to one side for them.

Word of caution. We lost 3 of the puppies. Peaches separated the runt around day 3 and even though the foster mom tried hard damnedest to get that puppy warm again, she died on the way to the vet's office. It was assumed that something was wrong with the little female for Peaches to have purposely put her aside. Two other puppies died within a day of each other a week later. Both happened in the middle of the night. Turns out the entire litter was born with Coccidia but they had no symptoms. They were born at healthy weights, ate ferociously and all else was normal. The remaining two were immediately treated and survived. What's really odd is that Peaches didn't test positive for Coccidia.

Tara
Hi Tricia~
I have taken in quite a few pregnant Mom's and I have loved it!

I do have a home though that Mother dog and pups can be feel very secure so my other dogs do not bother her or the pups.
However, it seems here that all my dogs what to be involved with Mom and pups and things have gone very well.
As far as the preparation, Mom needs a whelping box,which what I use is a pine rectangular box, long and wide enough for Mom to be able to lie straight out in.
I also do a pig rail which is a strap of wood all around the inside of the box about 8 inches up from the bottom.
My sides of the box are about 20 inches, with a front door on hinges.

I have a very good indoor/ outdoor heating unit,and put that on one side of the box, so when pups come they are nice and cozy.
I also like it big enough so I an sleep with the MOm and pups too.! : )

I do know some people that use a toddlers swimming pool.

I just feel that the wooden box with pig rails is so much safer. : )

Now when pups come Mom will be doing her thing with them for about three weeks ,(feeding and cleaning them up) but after that there will be a lot of work for you as then YOU will have to be doing the feeding and the cleaning up.

Also if Mom say has 12 pups and only 10 boobies, well yo have to make sure THAT ALL OF THE PUPS ARE GETTING THEIR FILL.
So then you would be making your own formula andbottlee feeding. I LOVE TO DO THIS THOUGH!!
Anyway, it is such a wonderful thing raising pups.

You will considerate it sucha blessing, although it will tear your heart a bit when they have to leave.
If you decide to take Mom in, and you need any help, with formula or little tricks that will make it a bit easier on you , give me a woof.

All Good Thoughts
Paulette~
Thanks so much to Tara and Paulette! More input is most welcome. She has, from x-rays, 5 visible pups, but could be one or two hidden. I have not experienced the 0-5 week stage of dogdom and feel it would be a great learning opportunity. Doesn't hurt that mom is a beautiful and very sweet Aussie. Who knows what dad is (or dads are).
I just worry about the time involved and stealing that away from my own dogs - not that they are hurting for quality or quantity of time.
We have a pregnant *** at our shelter - any time now. She is a sweet dog and I am considering fostering her and her pups after whelping til they are old enough to go up for adoption.

Tricia - Since we're local, I can lend you a whelping box, scales, a Ringer's solution set up, heating pads and lamps, etc.. My absolute favorite reference book on this is Win Strickland's GSD book because it has wonderful weekly details and great photos on things like tube feeding. I can lend you that, too. I even have a great lazy-susan for feeding weaning pups.
Every litter and mom is different. Some are easy and some are exhausting. All are worthwhile. The worst one I've had was a litter of 15 born to a year old GSD at the Pinole shelter last year. We lost
14 to neo-natal herpes, and had to tube feed every 4 hours and givesubcutaneous fluids twice a day. It wasn't easy, but I often see the Mom and surviving pup with their adopters and have never once regretted the effort.
Lynn K.
Tricia - Since we're local, I can lend you a whelping box, scales, a Ringer's solution set up, heating pads ... things like tube feeding. I can lend you that, too. I even have a great lazy-susan for feeding weaning pups.

Thanks Lynn!! I have a couple of kiddie pools - do you think that would be adequate? I also have heating pad and heat lamp. They haven't been born yet - well at least as of yesterday.
I was going to change my plans because I just heard on Sat. that my brother died - sudden and unexpected. I think though that I will really need this to distract me and provide therapy.
I think I may have the Strickland book, but if not, I will seek out in all the used Berkeley stores. Thanks for the input. I am excited about this, and view it as a wonderful learning experience. I have already alerted the kids in the neighborhood that I will be requiring their services for social times. Needless to say, they are all broken up.
Tricia - Since we're local, I can lend you a ... I even have a great lazy-susan for feeding weaning pups.

Thanks Lynn!! I have a couple of kiddie pools - do you think that would be adequate?

They are okay, but you really need a pig rail.
I also have heating pad and heat lamp. They haven't been born yet - well at least as of yesterday.

Get an old fashioned water bottle too, so if they start coming fast, they will have moist heat.
Wrap it in something cozy like flannel or cashmere.
I was going to change my plans because I just heard on Sat. that my brother died - sudden and unexpected.

Oh I am sorry.
I think though that I will really need this to distract me and provide therapy.

Yes
I think I may have the Strickland book, but if not, I will seek out in all the used Berkeley stores. Thanks for the input. I am excited about this, and view it as a wonderful learning experience.

Get a journal and your ribbons and either a magic marker to mark number on or many different color ribbons so you know what each color stands for.

RicRack does the job too.
I have already alerted the kids in
the neighborhood that I will be requiring their services for social times.Needless to say, they are all broken up.

Make sure they wash their hands and take off their shoes when they step into the bed.
Goats milk is a wonderful food for the pups mixed int otheir gruel.

Paulette!
I was going to change my plans because I just heard on Sat. that my brother died - sudden and unexpected. I think though that I will really need this to distract me and provide therapy.

Aww crap.
My condolences go out to you and yours. I know I fought with my brother all throughout our childhood, but now we are great friends. i would be devastated if he were to die.

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Marcel Beaudoin & Moogli
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'Power corrupts; absolute power is
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I was going to change my plans because I just heard on Sat. that my brother died - sudden and unexpected.

Tricia, so sorry to hear of your loss. My condolences.
Deb
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