I may be taking in some agamid lizards that were smuggled in from Vietnam. All I know of the story, is that they were smuggled into Seattle in a box marked "CAKE", then when the smuggler learned that all food from Vietnam was confiscated, he/she threw the box away. The customs people found it in the trash maybe two days later, and called PNHS about the survivors.
So, what kind of agamids are from Vietnam? The guy who left a message about them called them "saw-backed agamids", but my books don't have that common name, and don't list species by origin. Agamids come from all over the place (and include beardies, WDs and uros), so I'm hoping someone here might know?
TIA
Jennifer
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I may be taking in some agamid lizards that were smuggled in from Vietnam. All I know of the story, ... Agamids come from all over the place (and include beardies, WDs and uros), so I'm hoping someone here might know?

Hi Jenn
I think you have Calotes calotes:
http://tinyurl.com/pjoa
HTH
Chloe

"It's the easiest thing to live in a refuge from the world ... but it's the hardest thing to live in the world alone."
Jenn (Email Removed) blurted:
I may be taking in some agamid lizards that were smuggled in from Vietnam.

me = jealous!
fr0glet
I may be taking in some agamid lizards that were smuggled in from Vietnam.

me = jealous! fr0glet

Hey, I don't usually get the cool stuff! Look at you, with the Borneo short tail, children's pythons, and fancy corns. :-P

Jennifer
If it is not a rare import, than it is most likely Acanthosaura sp. (armata, crucigera, capra) or Calotes sp.
If it is something less often imported, it could be a wide range of agamids. Gonochephalus sp. - Bronchocela sp. - Hypsilurus sp. These are normally called angle-heads, but could all be called sawbacks.

-Ryan
I may be taking in some agamid lizards that were ... WDs and uros), so I'm hoping someone here might know?

Hi Jenn I think you have Calotes calotes:

Well, it doesn't specifically say the animals are native to Vietnam, so that leaves a wide range of tropical agamid species from other areas near there. I don't think calotes calotes are actually found in Vietnam, but a lot of agamids not found in the country are imported from there. I am interested to find out more info from Jenn, as the tropical agamid species are my true passion in Lizards : /
-Ryan
Jenn (Email Removed) blurted:
Hey, I don't usually get the cool stuff! Look at you, with the Borneo short tail, children's pythons, and fancy corns. :-P Jennifer

Hey! I bought those children's pythons fair and square! And the rescue Okeetee came from Jeff Wagner, not the society! AND the other corn, lovely sweetheart that she is (I've been calling her sweetcorn) is up for adoption! Sabba, on the other hand, I spent a pretty penny on to ensure she'd be mine. D oh, true love... can't wait to meet your argentine boa!

Well anyway, the last thing I need around here is any more lizards. I really need to adopt out some leopard geckos.. and Gulliver is not recovering well which is making me really sad. He's been on oral doxycyclene, gentomycin drops and triple antibiotic opthalmic ointment for another 2 weeks now... and his eyes look to be back the way they were when you first picked him up. How did you clear it up originally Jenn? I can't fix him!! Emotion: sad Emotion: sad
He won't eat, either... though he's still 68 grams and got a lot of tail so I'm not force-feeding. He does drink water. Emotion: sad
I also know that nobody is ever going to adopt the white spot gecko and I'll have him forever and ever... jerk that he is! Emotion: stick out tongue
fr0glet
Well anyway, the last thing I need around here is any more lizards. I really need to adopt out some leopard geckos..

I wonder what the procedure would be for bringing a couple back to the UK with me
and Gulliver is not recovering well which is making me really sad. He's been on oral doxycyclene, gentomycin drops and ... when you first picked him up. How did you clear it up originally Jenn? I can't fix him!! Emotion: sad Emotion: sad

Aww poor little guy Emotion: sad
I know you do everything you possibly can with the sick ones but I guess we just can't save them all. I *so* hate it when no matter how hard you try they just don't make it Emotion: sad
Chloe

"It's the easiest thing to live in a refuge from the world ... but it's the hardest thing to live in the world alone."
So, what kind of agamids are from Vietnam? The guy who left a message about them called them "saw-backed agamids", ... Agamids come from all over the place (and include beardies, WDs and uros), so I'm hoping someone here might know?

Agamids in Vietname from reptile-database.org:
REPTILIA:Acanthosaura capra
REPTILIA:Acanthosaura crucigera
REPTILIA:Acanthosaura lepidogaster
REPTILIA:Bronchocela smaragdina
REPTILIA:Calotes emma
REPTILIA:Calotes mystaceus
REPTILIA:Draco blanfordii
REPTILIA:Draco maculatus
REPTILIA:Gonocephalus liogaster
REPTILIA:Japalura chapaensis
REPTILIA:Japalura fasciata
REPTILIA:Leiolepis belliana
REPTILIA:Leiolepis guentherpetersi
REPTILIA:Leiolepis guttata
REPTILIA:Leiolepis reevesii
REPTILIA:Pseudocalotes brevipes
REPTILIA:Pseudocalotes microlepis
Calotes, Acanthosaura, and Japalura are the genera I've seen for sale one place or another. I'd guess that if someone's bothering to smuggle them it'd be one of the otherwise-unavailable species, but who knows...
Patrick Alexander
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