sort of.
they're going to open companion events to mixed breed dogs but they will be separate mixed breed classes, separate mixed breed titles, and mixed breed dogs will not be allowed at events held in conjunction with conformation events, nor will they be allowed at nationals.

disappointing.
steve is akc registered (much to the chagrin of my working dog friends) and both the pit bulls have ILPs so it doesn't affect me directly, but i'm still very disappointed.

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steve is akc registered (much to the chagrin of my working dog friends) and both the pit bulls have ILPs so it doesn't affect me directly, but i'm still very disappointed.

Why are you disappointed?
The "separate but equal"?You haven't done agility. These dogs will be running the same courses, with the same judges, at the same times as the purebreds. The times and faults are posted. If you want to know if your mixed breed dog beat the BC at the same height and level, just look at the scores. Once you have reached Excellent, the only placements that matter are first and second - because there are multipliers involved for MACH points (although they may go away soon). Yeah, there are also ribbons for third and fourth but they really mean nothing.

All that matters after first and second is the green qualifying ribbon and the points earned toward the MACH. Outside of those first and second places, the dogs are not competing against each other anyway - except in their owner's minds. A green qualifying ribbon that gives me 10 MACH points when I'm in third place is the same as the green qualifying ribbon that gives me 10 MACH points and 50th place.

The fact that clubs whose trials are already filling in the first three hours don't have to allow mixed breeds to enter?
Sorry - but as American Express says "Membership has its privileges". I already have to pay up to $40 extra to overnight entries to some trials in order to be sort of sure I'll get in.
The rule against allowing mixed breeds at trials held in conjunction with breed shows? That mixed breeds can't qualify for the AKC blue ribbon showcase events? Since the Invitational is based on the top five dogs in each breed, just how would mixed breeds be listed?

Not that there is a guarantee that every purebred dog is responsibly bred, because they certainly are not, but how would putting dogs who have obviously been bred by irresponsible breeders benefit AKC and their base of purebred dog breeders? I don't want to see a Goldendoodle competing at AKC Nationals event on televisions across the country. It's bad enough to see the crappily bred dogs showcased.
And as far as the mixed breeds being shut out of these events, I don't see that it matters to anyone in actual practice. I have two responsibly bred, AKC registered dogs. We will never be invited to the Invitational. It's not impossible that we could qualify for Nationals but since I probably wouldn't go anyway, it certainly isn't a goal. And yet I do almost exclusively AKC agility because I like it the best of the venues and because it is available in my area.
AKC exists to promote and protect the purebred dog. It's their mission statement. Personally I think they've been doing a pretty crappy job of it lately (not because of this program) and that the only reason they have taken this route is to bring in more money and to do it in a way that upsets their base the least. (Many of whom are pretty *** that this program was declared dead until it was suddenly in place.)
I think it's pretty clear that AKC did this just for the money. Money for them and money for clubs whose trials are not filling. Okay, I can live with that. I have friends who have both AKC dogs and mixed breeds and I will love the chance to be at trials with them - other than the couple of CPE events I do each year. But I do not want AKC to forget their mission statement.
Judy
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steve is akc registered (much to the chagrin of my ... it doesn't affect me directly, but i'm still very disappointed.

Why are you disappointed? The "separate but equal"? You haven't done agility. These dogs will be running the same courses, ... couple of CPE events I do each year. But I do not want AKC to forget their mission statement. Judy

I am delighted.
In tracking, it's guaranteed that a test will fill. Danny died before drawing into a TDX (It's much easier now as there are more tests) . Once you have a dog that has spent his entire life waiting to draw into a test, you understand why there would be resentment over flooding the entrant hopefuls with mixed breeds in a registry whose charter says it's goal is the promotion of PUREBREED dogs.
IF we wish to include mixed breeds, fine. But If we had to include them above and inclusive of purebreed dogs, I'd be heatedly furious.

It's not like competition isn't stiff already to get into a test.
I am delighted. It's not like competition isn't stiff already to get into a test.

So, you are delighted because they didn't include tracking? What makes you think that tracking won't be next month's announcement?

It is already extremely difficult to get into some agility trials. And unlike tracking tests - which I understand are random draw? - , agility trials can be set up as first received. For a Saturday opening, that costs me about $50 extra to get my entries there before noon - which is when the wait list starts forming. And for the agility trials that DID go to random draw when it became an option, adding mixed breeds just means that there are going to times that a mixed breed dog gets in and a purebred dog does not.

I'm assuming that most of the agility trials in that position, won't be offering mixed breed entries since they don't need additional entries. But they can and they may if there is pressure within their own club members to do so.
And based on my own sampling, I think the numbers that AKC is giving that state that most member clubs were in favor of including mixed breeds are highly suspect.
I find myself in the position of repeating "Not that there is anything wrong with that". I have had many mixed breed dogs in my life and they are very important memories to me. I have friends with mixed breed dogs who are WONDERFUL dogs.
But the only reason AKC is doing this is for the money. And it is doing it over the objections of its base - which has already become convinced that AKC would sell them out at any and every opportunity.

And if you think tracking won't be included soon, think again. It's not breed specific, unlike herding, earthdog, hunt tests, etc. I suspect they just forgot about it for now.
Judy
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I am delighted. It's not like competition isn't stiff already to get into a test.

So, you are delighted because they didn't include tracking? What makes you think that tracking won't be next month's announcement?

Because If you read, the events are separate from the registered dogs . A club can opt NOT to hold a mixed breed event at the same time. So if their purebred events conventionally fill, they don't need to include a mixed breed event. But if the event giving club doesn't traditionally fill, then hosting a mixed event would not hurt anything.
Tracking is listed under obedience. So Mixed breed dogs may also compete in tracking. I'm delighted that a club can opt NOT to host a mixed breed event in conjuction with a regular event.
The designation of the separate events was issued because the tracking clubs were united in demanding there be a difference.

That way, we can admit mixed breeds in the event that a test does not fill, but purebreds all have preferences.
Because If you read, the events are separate from the registered dogs . A club can opt NOT to hold ... breed event. But if the event giving club doesn't traditionally fill, then hosting a mixed event would not hurt anything.

But the club has the option even if they always fill of including mixed breeds on an equal basis if it is what their own voting membership wants.

I can vote with my entry fee but only after the premium is printed and the club has decided for that event.
There are some agility trials that we attend that have an actual voting membership in their club of only a dozen or so people. And others who have a larger membership overall but few that do agility.

I understand that it is up to the clubs to decided. And then it is up to me whether or not to enter.
Judy
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I can vote with my entry fee but only after the premium is printed and the club has decided for that event.

Yep.
As for mixed breed people, they have many other venues for participation. So to have limited access, should be considered a gift.

They have chosen to be excluded from AKC based on their choice of a mixed breed. So to be included on a limited basis should be a thrill to them. I secretary and hcair several tracking tests. Since we do fill, I won't be considering mixed breed participation until which time the purebred tests don't fill.
If that happened, I would welcome mixed breed entries. What I think i would do is schedule a test with a week earlier closing date for the purebreds than the mixed breeds.
So to have limited access, should be considered a gift. They have chosen to be excluded from AKC based on their choice of a mixed breed. So to be included on a limited basis should be a thrill to them.

I grew up with mixed breed dogs. My current dogs are all purebreds; only two have AKC papers, and four are NGA dogs and not AKC registerable. I'm not a fan of the AKC, though there are organizations I dislike more. But the above statements are what causes people to refer to purebred dog lovers as breed snobs.
If that happened, I would welcome mixed breed entries. What I think i would do is schedule a test with a week earlier closing date for the purebreds than the mixed breeds.

There are AKC agility trials put on by breed clubs that limit initial entries to their own breeds. After a specific date, all AKC breeds can enter.
So there is certainly a precedent for this type of entry system.

I would be fine with doing that for any agility trials that normally fill quickly or come close to filling every time. Give the AKC/ILP dogs two weeks and then allow mixed breeds. The only people who would be really inconvenienced by this would be those with both types - purebred and mixed breed. They would have to hold their purebred entry until the mixed breeds were eligible. But right now, AKC isn't getting their entries at all. If they feel like second-class citizens because of this, they can continue to play at the other venues - where I have to tell you, AKC and purebred and registered can be looked on as bad things.
There are also other trials that are breed or group specific - which certainly will not allow mixed breeds to be eligible.

Judy
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