I have a 20 week old Toy Fox Terrier that is getting there when it comes to house training (unfortuneately we didn't get her until she was 13 weeks old, also unfortunately it was from a pet store, so those two things may not be helping). She knows her spot to go outside, and will basically go #1 on command, not really with #2 but it seems like she may be getting it. When we can't keep a close eye on her we have her leashed near the doorwall to the patio (inside the door we use to take her to her spot) with about 4 feet of slack, a few toys, her bed and her food. She doesn't have a problem not going when she is leashed like this. She also sleeps like this, quite well, all night.

The question is this: by leashing her like that is it slowing down her learning to "ask" to go outside by going to the door or whining?

Obviously she can't go to the door if she is already leashed there, but we try and give her freedom throughout the house as often as possible and at times like these she never goes to the door, and this is when she has her accidents (about 2 times a week). It seems like if it wasn't for us taking her out constantly by watching for the signs she would be having even more accidents(and her sniffing around the house to investigate looks a lot like the potty dance) . Should we find a new place for her to be leashed or is it not a big deal? We like it there because she likes to look outside. Should we just be using a crate when we can't watch her? We use a crate when we are not home.
Thanks for helping a couple of first time dog owners.

Kevin
I have a 20 week old Toy Fox Terrier that is getting there when it comes to house training (unfortuneately ... like that is it slowing down her learning to "ask" to go outside by going to the door or whining?

Yes.
Obviously she can't go to the door if she is already leashed there, but we try and give her freedom ... her? We use a crate when we are not home. Thanks for helping a couple of first time dog owners.

a cage will not housetrain your dog.
Neither will a leash.
I hope that heelps.
this is michael
reporting live...
http://dogtv.com
I have a 20 week old Toy Fox Terrier that ... to go outside by going to the door or whining?

Yes.

PS.
what you want with housetraining (at least when you are a lazy guru such as myself) is for the dog to
go to YOU and not the door. Because you're not always by the door. A dog who whines at the door is a victim of a poor education. A dog who just goes in the house is a victim of no education. A dog who goes and gets the human, wherever he/she is an A student, and probably has an owner who watched a dogtv.com networks video at some point.
I have a 2.5 year old dog who was crated lightly as a puppy (for destruction purposes, not really
housetraining) and an 8.5 year old dog who was not crated at all as a puppy.
They will both aggressively seek me out, wake me, pester me and pressure me at all hours of the day or night if they have to go outside. I never have to clean up any accidents, I never have to use Nature's Miracle. I'm not an expert on "getting rid of the smell."
I'm a lazy person. That's why I do housetraining
right, from the start.
this is michael
reporting live...
http://dogtv.com
what you want with housetraining (at least when you are a lazy guru such as myself) is for the dog to go to YOU and not the door. Because you're not always by the door.

Madigan comes to get me, but MacKenzie has figured out another method that is just as effective. She scratches at the door. I can hear it from wherever I am in the house. She also scratches to come in.
Murphy never asks to go out or come in. She just patiently waits until she's invited either way.
Canine Action Dog Trainer
http://www.canineaction.com
My Kids, My Students, My Life:
http://hometown.aol.com/dfrntdrums/myhomepage/index.html
what you want with housetraining (at least when you are ... not the door. Because you're not always by the door.

Madigan comes to get me, but MacKenzie has figured out another method that is just as effective. She scratches at ... come in. Murphy never asks to go out or come in. She just patiently waits until she's invited either way.

ahh,
she's a freeloader. let's everybody else do the work. I guess that's smart in its own way.

this is michael
reporting live...
http://dogtv.com
she's a freeloader. let's everybody else do the work. I guess that's smart in its own way.

I have a friend who insists that Murphy is the smartest of the group because she never gets into trouble. Nope... she just doesn't have the creativity to think up ways to get around the rules like the other two.

She's a sweet dog, but not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

Canine Action Dog Trainer
http://www.canineaction.com
My Kids, My Students, My Life:
http://hometown.aol.com/dfrntdrums/myhomepage/index.html
My poodle, Alex, comes to get me, but we are having a very difficult time training our Aussie, Tillie. The only time she ever asks to go out is in the early morning. Both dogs sleep in our bedroom and Tillie will come to my side of the bed and whine to wake me up to let her out. But if I'm already up and about, she doesn't ever ask to go out, so if we don't put her out frequently, she will just go inside.

If I put her out and tell her to go pee, she'll do it, but she seems to have no idea that pooping is meant to be done outside. We got her at 5 mos, after she'd been in a pet store cage for most of her life, so that is a large part of the problem.
I have heard that hanging a bell on the door to outside can sometimes help in teaching a dog to signal its desire to go out. I am going to try it, but in the meantime, we just have to keep Tillie crated when we are not directly watching her. I do know that the more "accidents" that she has in the house, the harder it will be to train her. Also, it is essential to thoroughly clean up after every accident, because dogs can smell any trace of urine or feces left behind.

This dog is so smart in every other way, it's very frustrating to have her be so dense in the housetraining department!
Both dogs sleep in our bedroom and Tillie will come to my side of the bed and whine to wake ... she doesn't ever ask to go out, so if we don't put her out frequently, she will just go inside.

that's not at all surprising. most dogs don't generalize well. it sounds like she's learned to whine when she wants you to get out of bed, but she doesn't know to ask out at other times.
If I put her out and tell her to go pee, she'll do it, but she seems to have no idea that pooping is meant to be done outside.

it's important to go outside with her and to praise her like crazy when she pees/poops outside.

shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette