Remi likes to chase and bark at Shadow when we are outside. It happens mostly when Shadow is running and/or chasing a ball. Distracting her with her own ball chase doesn't work. I generally
corral her and work on a quiet command but so far no luck . Since I'm a novice at this training stuff any tips would be appreciated Emotion: smile

Kathy
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Remi likes to chase and bark at Shadow when we are outside. It happens mostly when Shadow is running and/or ... so far no luck . Since I'm a novice at this training stuff any tips would be appreciated Emotion: smile Kathy

I'm not sure why the above behavior is actually a problem. Sounds like PLAY to me! I've had pups who grab onto the older dog's tail while they fetch, jump all over them, whatever. It evolves with training and one-on-one play.
We play 3-ball fetch around here and they each get their ball one right after another in rapid fire from the chuck-it. The fetching order changes as dogs mature or age. I can't even remember how old the pups tend to be when they "get" the routine, it just happens. One-on-one training and play with the pup is part of that though.

Engage Remi with a toy of her liking, A tug or whatever. Play with her individually to TEACH her how to fetch. Let her play with Shadow and let them figure out what that means.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
Remi likes to chase and bark at Shadow when we ... this training stuff any tips would be appreciated Emotion: smile Kathy

I'm not sure why the above behavior is actually a problem. Sounds like PLAY to me! I've had pups who ... how to fetch. Let her play with Shadow and let them figure out what that means. Janet Boss www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

It's not the actual play that is the problem - it's the constant barking!

Kathy
It's not the actual play that is the problem - it's the constant barking!

Some dogs bark in play. give her a rope toy to carry while she chases!

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
It's not the actual play that is the problem - it's the constantbarking!

Some dogs bark in play. give her a rope toy to carry while she chases! Janet Boss www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

I'll give it as try but I'm fairly certain she will drop it (she does her ball) She is much more interested in trying (unsuccessfully) to engage Shadow.
Kathy
Remi likes to chase and bark at Shadow when we ... this training stuff any tips would be appreciated Emotion: smile Kathy

I'm not sure why the above behavior is actually a problem. Sounds like PLAY to me! I've had pups who grab onto the older dog's tail while they fetch, jump all over them, whatever. It evolves with training and one-on-one play.

I don't know if it's play or not. Cooper chases Zane when Zane's playing ball, running alongside, barking maniacally and nipping at his flanks, neck, face and ears. I suspect he's taking advantage of Zane's ball obsession to get some cheap shots in with a minimum risk of retaliation.
That, in and of itself might be mistaken for "play" except that a related behavior occurs when Zane wedges himself under my bed. There's not much clearance so he has to sort of lay on his side and swim to get under there. And he has to reverse himself and come out the same way as apparently he can't back up. When his head emerges from under the edge of the bed, but the rest of his body is still pinned, Cooper will run over and bite him
I don't know if it's play or not. Cooper chases Zane when Zane's playing ball, running alongside, barking maniacally and ... suspect he's taking advantage of Zane's ball obsession to get some cheap shots in with a minimum risk of retaliation.

Perhaps. I have 3 ball obsessed dogs, so they are all pretty focused on getting THEIR ball. OTOH, Marcie crouches and lies in wait for Rudy, pretty much EVERY time they are coming in from the yard. He'll stand at the back of the yard, not wanting to move because she is going to grab him by the tail or the collar. She's relentless. So, I have to call her first, then he comes. OTOH, he clearly has the upper paw in much of their play, so this is something of a game to them. She IS faster but he's much bigger and such a wuss sometimes!
That, in and of itself might be mistaken for "play" except that a related behavior occurs when Zane wedges himself ... edge of the bed, but the rest of his body is still pinned, Cooper will run over and bite him

Lucy has to do that to get under and out from under our bed (where she usually sleeps). Marcie used to try to engage her in bitey face when she was trying to come out, but I stopped it. Lucy isn't as agile as she once was and I don't want her hurting herself during that encounter.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
I'm not sure why the above behavior is actually a ... over them, whatever. It evolves with training and one-on-one play.

I don't know if it's play or not. Cooper chases Zane when Zane's playing ball, running alongside, barking maniacally and nipping at his flanks, neck, face and ears.

Sounds like what is happening here. Sometimes she does the running and nipping as he is chasing the ball (no barking) and then all three on the way back. Are we doomed to taking them out separately? That creates problems too as the one left behind in the house goes nuts.

Kathy
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I don't know if it's play or not. Cooper chases ... maniacally and nipping at his flanks, neck, face and ears.

Sounds like what is happening here. Sometimes she does the running and nipping as he is chasing the ball (no ... doomed to taking them out separately? That creates problems too as the one left behind in the house goes nuts.

How well do they interact when there's no ball involved? Zane seems oblivious to Cooper's badgering as long as he's got a ball. But on a couple of occasions Zane has gotten stressed at various other factors and has lashed out at Cooper for relatively minor infractions (assuming you didn't know their cummulative history).
If Shadow's not venting on Remi at other times I'd assume it's play and ignore the noise. In my situation, I avoid allowing Cooper to antagonize Zane, even though Zane is not visibly reacting to the provocation at the time. He's clearly keeping score on some level.
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