I just bought a Jack Russell Terrier puppy and wanted to know if anyone had a way of checking the JRTCA registry.
I don't want to spend $50 or $60 to get a pedigree from JRTCA if this bloodline is Bogus. I have APR papers that have the Dam & Sire names and numbers.
This is not honest I know, but nor are allot of breeders! I know I should have checked first, but I didn't..
Any contacts of websites that would help other than the JRTC site that I already know about would be greatly appreciated.

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I just bought a Jack Russell Terrier puppy and wanted to know if anyonehad a way of checking the JRTCA registry.

Checking it for what? Your dog's too young to be registered. Where did you buy this dog from?
I don't want to spend $50 or $60 to get a pedigree from JRTCA if this bloodline is Bogus. I have APR papers that have the Dam & Sire names and numbers.

What are "APR" papers? If you bought your dog from a legitimate JRTCA breeder, AFAIK you should have gotten a pedigree - a JRTCA pedigree- from the breeder. The pedigree should have four generations on it, not just dam and sire name.
You have to send a copy of that pedigree in to JRTCA along with the health clearances from your vet, photos of the dog, etc. when you apply for the dog's registration after it turns one year old. The JRTCA will then approve or deny your request for registration, based on whether the dog meets standard and has passed the health tests. If your dog has a four-generation pedigree from the UKC, you can also apply for JRTCA registration IF the dog isn't registered with the UKC yet. AKC pedigrees are no longer accepted.
Any contacts of websites that would help other than the JRTC site that I already know about would be greatly appreciated.

I'm not aware of any web site which has pedigrees listed; I don't even think the JRTCA's members' site has such a thing. You might want to try joining one of the Jack Russell E-mail lists and asking, though- there are JRTCA breeders on both the Jack Russells and the Jackrussellterriers lists.
Checking it for what? Your dog's too young to be registered. Where did you buy this dog from?

I'm just curious, because I didn't see any age posted, (I didn't really read through the post carefully, though) but why is he too young to be registered?

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I'm just curious, because I didn't see any age posted, (I didn't really read through the post carefully, though) but why is he too young to be registered?

Since the poster said he "bought a puppy", I'm presuming that the dog is under one year old. The JRTCA does not register any dogs until they are at least 12 months old, as explained a bit further down in my post.
I wanted to look up the puppy's parents pedigree.. All of the post I received I tried to avoid such responses by acknowledging my knowledge of JRTC rules and all the things I should have done but didn't. Why do all newsgroups attempt to make people sound stupid? It was a very simple question. I even noted that I knew it was not the appropriate thing to do and that it was cheating the system.
Surely with all the expert posters in here someone has tried to look a pedigree before via the internet. Simple question can it be done without me wasting $45 dollars for the privilege of joining the JRTCA before my dog even is 8 weeks old. It's the DAM and SIRE folks that im interested in. Why should I wait 12 months to send JRTCA $45 dollars if my dog will not even be approved due to her pedigree being BOGUS. REMEMBER the dog selling world is not a honest world so don't tell me to ask the breeder again that was the type answer I was trying to avoid, because PEOPLE lie, cheat the system and do naughty things all the time.
Boy you professional newsgroup people *** me off.. ~JNJ~
Surely with all the expert posters in here someone has tried to look a pedigree before via the internet. Simple ... the JRTCA before my dog even is 8 weeks old. It's the DAM and SIRE folks that im interested in.

So do a google on their names.
That's what I do.
Some breeds have pages that have databases of pedigrees, but you'd have to find it for Jacks.
And you never actually asked a question, so I don't know how anyone could possibly answer it. (Check your original post. No ? in it.)

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I wanted to look up the puppy's parents pedigree..

Why can't you get this information from the breeder? If the breeder isn't giving it to you, and is a JRTCA breeder, you should be able to complain to the JRTCA regardless of whether or not you're a member AFAIK.
Why do all newsgroups attempt to make people sound stupid?

Nobody is "attempting to make you sound stupid".
I tried to avoid such responses by acknowledging my knowledge of JRTC rules and all the things I should have done but didn't

Actually, you didn't say anything of the sort- all you said was "I know this isn't honest". Which, in fact, indicates that you're NOT familiar with how JRTCA registration works. Sorry, but it does- because there would be nothing "dishonest" about you seeing your puppy's pedigree or even having a copy of it.
I even noted that I knew it was not the appropriate thing to do and that it was cheating the system.

Sorry, but both of those statements are actually inaccurate. There's nothing inappropriate about seeing your puppy's pedigree, nor would it be "cheating the system" for you to have it.
Why do you think you'd be "cheating" if you saw your dog's pedigree??

Point of note: having a pedigree and having the dog registered are NOT the same thing.
Simple question can it be done without me wasting $45 dollars for the privilege of joining the JRTCA before my dog even is 8 weeks old.

Simple answer, already given to you, is that nobody on this group is aware of a way to do this. Simple suggestion, already given to you, is that you join one of the JRT lists and ask JRTCA breeders. I would also have suggested the help forums at www.terrier.com, but you said you weren't interested in that.
It's the DAM and SIRE folks that im interested in.

What, exactly, is is that you want to know about the dam and sire? If all you want to know is "are these dogs registered with the JRTCA", why don't you call the JRTCA and ask them?
If there's a breeder out there claiming to be JRTCA who isn't, or a JRTCA breeder who's not giving appropriate information to puppy buyers, the head office would want to know about it.
Why should I wait 12 months to send JRTCA $45 dollars if my dog will not evenbe approved due to her pedigree being BOGUS.

Even if she's not approved for registration- and pedigree is only one small part of that- you can still record her. Of course, if your primary interest in her is as a breeding money-maker, that doesn't help you much. If your interest is in having a good pet and participating in JRTCA activities, you don't need a pedigree at all.
If your interest is in knowing whether her parents passed the health tests required for JRTCA registration, you ought to be able to find that out from the JRTCA without having the pedigree- as long as you have accurate information about the parents.
And again, if the your dog is of JRTCA breeding and the breeder won't give you info on her pedigree, that's something the JRTCA should be notified about anyway.
Boy you professional newsgroup people *** me off..

Impossible for that to happen, because there is NO SUCH THING as a "professional newsgroup person".
It's the DAM and SIRE folks that im interested in. Why
should I wait 12 months to send JRTCA $45 dollars if my dog will not evenbe approved due to her ... PEOPLE lie, cheat the systemand do naughty things all the time. Boy you professional newsgroup people *** me off.. ~JNJ~

"Professional newsgroup people" wouldn't buy a dog if they thought there was a chance of the pedigree being bogus. Why in the world would you give your hard-earned money to breeders if you did not trust them? Sheesh. The "dog selling world" is not a dishonest world - only the disreputable, irresponsible dog sellers can share that honor. Next time, find one that you can trust.
Christy
Simple suggestion, already given to you, is that you join one of the JRT lists and ask JRTCA breeders.

BTW- I asked the JRT list which I know has 3-4 JRTCA breeders on it, and so far none of them is aware of any online way to research pedigree. All who have responded so far A. suggest that you call HQ and B. would like to know what "APA papers" are.
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