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(Speaking of beezers www.mfrye.com/skyrocket/klitter.html )

CUTE! I remember when I first met Fanny - she was with her 4 month old kids. So funny looking!

-Andrea Stone
Saorsa Basenjis
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In Briards, it's not at all unusual for dogs to
finish from 6-9 puppy, and even group placements at that age are not unheard of.

That surprises me given their coats. I take it they grow in quickly? Or do the judges not worry about it?
It's not unheard of for Basenjis to finish at a year or even less, and they often finish sometime around their 2nd birthday. However Basenjis can change a /lot/, and many are really not fully mature until 3 years of age. Some mature earlier than others, but there are many dogs that finish young and when you go back to look at them as 3 or 4 year olds you wonder how they ever did it.

-Andrea Stone
Saorsa Basenjis
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The Trolls Nest - greenmen, goblins & gargoyle wall art www.trollsnest.com
FWIW I really didn't like the article - it had a nasty tone to it thatmade you feel the author was *** she had to cover a dog show and just being bitchy. Melissa S. Frye

Agreed. And then there were the ads at the bottom of the pages for puppypetite and puppyfind.
~~Judy
In Briards, it's not at all unusual for dogs to

finish from 6-9 puppy, and even group placements at that age are not unheard of.

That surprises me given their coats. I take it they grow in quickly? Or do the judges not worry about it?

Keep in mind that in most areas of the country, Briards are right down at the bottom of the point schedule. And puppy fluff is different than adult coat, but still pretty.
A Briard that's sound and moves well stands out in group even if it's a pup. At one point, when I was doing stats for the national club, I sat down & figured out that when there was a Briard entry at a show we got a piece of the group 25% of the time. That seems to me a pretty high percentage for a relatively uncommon breed.
People who special may finish a Briard as a pup and then enter him/her occasionally until a year old or so, but they don't typically start their career in earnest until they're 3 or so and in full coat. It varies, though. A few years ago there was a dog who finished his Ch. just short of his second birthday... by taking a Group 1 from the classes. And age 2 is about the worst age there is for coat.

JFWIW,
Dianne
I can't get over how long her legs look in the pic with the pups!

Debbie
That Newf is awesome! And I'm hoping Bunny will be present tonight. What a gorgeous girl she is.

I am very partial to Bunny, but my girl is her half-sister, so there is the family conection - look at her win photo in breeds, she is lovely. (Speaking of beezers www.mfrye.com/skyrocket/klitter.html )

Awww... how sweet. Interesting that all the girls are predominantly white. Is 8 a big litter for a beezer?

Glad things went so smoothly.
Mary
Its a hobby and one that costs alot of money, ... worthless for determining the fitness or rightness of a dog.

And your reason for believing this is... ??[/nq]Because there's no for anything health related that isn't an obvious skin disorder or lameness. Nothing that judges the animal on its temperament and nothing on its breed traits. There are more than a few temperamentally unsound or off-balance champions out there, being bred & passing on their temperament flaw(s). Whether or not a BC can herd well, a Min. Dachshund can run a mole or other animal to ground, a Lab can fetch & do field work, it doesn't matter as long as the animal looks good and meets the size standard.

A beautiful dog can still be a genetic nightmare in terms of health & temperament and have few of the breed traits its supposed to have. But as long as he has someone willing to show him, and he meets the standard, he'll get pointed and/or awarded a title. For me fitness and rightness are about temperament, breed traits & health primarily with size being last on the list. I understand that size=structure=orthopedic health but its still just a small part of the animal in the overall scheme of things.

Tara
That Newf is awesome! And I'm hoping Bunny will be present tonight. What a gorgeous girl she is.

Bunny is my choice as well...since I've already heard that Bodhi's momma didn't take breed in Belgians. It was her retirement "party", I guess winning the National was enough. :-) I'm not familiar with the winning dog, only know that that same breeder has a litter about a year older than Bodhi that used Bodhi's sire (who won breed at Westminster year before last).
The dog I'm excited about seeing at the National in March is one of the 2 yr olds that ended up getting an Award of Merit, he looks fantastic in photos.
We were rooting for Dickens, the AST. I have his litter brother {and Winston's sire}, Blazer, for OB board/train. Dickens ... board/train. Dicken's and Blazer's litter brother, Bullet, won BOB there in 2001, I think. Owner-handled. All in the family.

And local folk! Yay! I noticed quite a few "local" dogs (mostly Washington) last night...pretty cool stuff!
Shelly & The Boys who'll be watching.
Oh! And hey, the cool thing, the BOB & BOS Belgian Sheepdogs and Tervuren all had some sort of performance titles!! Yay!!! (Still looking to see the Mal results...)
Shelly & The Boys
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