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Also worth noting, always make sure the chain is the right size for the dog, and don't leave one on for the entire life of the Dog. When I was working in rescue we had a pit bull come in that had a choke chain embedded in his neck because the previous owners had left it on since it was a baby. Luckily for the poor dog, the owners left it behind when they were evicted and the landlord brought it to the rescue where it had the collar removed and was adopted out.
Well, IMO, if you "couldn't find any useful guidance in the book," say "No Bad Dogs!", there could only be ... looking for it very hard. or 2. You already knew most of it. I'm going to assume it's Number 2.

Thanks for the compliment, but you're mistaken. I read it way back when I didn't know anything, possibly back before I got my first Lab, when I was still trying to research dogs, ownership, training, and such.

So if the book really is coherent, the problem may have been total lack of experience to provide a frame of reference.
Amy Dahl
On 28 Jul 2006 12:19:50 -0700,
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Also worth noting, always make sure the chain is the right size for the dog, and don't leave one on ... a choke chain embedded in his neck because the previous owners had left it on since it was a baby.

Question:
Do you really think it does any good to inform certain people that they shouldn't allow a choke collar (or any other collar, for that matter) to become embedded in a dog's neck?
For example, do you think it would have done any good to tell these people...
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/02/17/Citrus/Older sister in Dolla.shtml

or these...
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/2171352/detail.html
...that they shouldn't lock their children in closets, feed them animal feces, etc?
Could anyone really tell enough "things" to people like that?

For example, things like don't hang your dog from a tree by its collar, don't tie your dog to the bumper of a moving truck, don't throw your dog off a freakin' cliff, etc.
I don't think so.

Handsome Jack Morrison
'Disproportionate' in What Moral Universe?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/27/AR2006072701725.html

Hizballah Attacked UNIFIL Twice This Week:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21801 Hizballah Attacked UNIFIL Twice This Week&only

Hezbollah was using UN post as 'shield':
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50

Obsession: Radical Islam’s War with the West (a must-see movie, especially for Shelly, who's probably still trying to figure out who "these people" are. Heck, she's still trying to figure out who the Nazis were): http://www.obsessionthemovie.com /
I stand with Israel.
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005547.htm
Two books that every American (and Canadian) must read:
1) The Rage and The Pride, by Orianna Fallacihttp://makeashorterlink.com/?J13521A6D
2) The Force of Reason, by Orianna Fallacihttp://makeashorterlink.com/?T42552A6D
While they still can.
()
So if the book really is coherent, the problem may have been total lack of experience to provide a frame of reference.

Amy, you've always seemed to me like a very bright person.

Perhaps I was wrong? Emotion: big smile

Handsome Jack Morrison
'Disproportionate' in What Moral Universe?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/27/AR2006072701725.html

Hizballah Attacked UNIFIL Twice This Week:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21801 Hizballah Attacked UNIFIL Twice This Week&only

Hezbollah was using UN post as 'shield':
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50

Obsession: Radical Islam’s War with the West (a must-see movie, especially for Shelly, who's probably still trying to figure out who "these people" are. Heck, she's still trying to figure out who the Nazis were): http://www.obsessionthemovie.com /
I stand with Israel.
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005547.htm
Two books that every American (and Canadian) must read:
1) The Rage and The Pride, by Orianna Fallacihttp://makeashorterlink.com/?J13521A6D
2) The Force of Reason, by Orianna Fallacihttp://makeashorterlink.com/?T42552A6D
While they still can.
()

So if the book really is coherent, the problem may have been total lack of experience to provide a frame of reference.

Amy, you've always seemed to me like a verybright person. Perhaps I was wrong? Emotion: big smile

Dunno..it's been a very long time since I read the book. All I remember is my impression there were no clear instructions.

Perhaps you are familiar with one of my all-time favorites: Charles Morgan on Retrievers by Ann Fowler and D. L. Walters.
I was frustrated with that one, when I read it shortly after acquiring my first Lab. It is not a manual for beginners. Now that I have some experience of my own, I consider it one of the most valuable books I've ever read.
But wrt the Barbara Wodehouse book, it's speculation what my problem with it was. I don't remember.
Amy Dahl
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Amy, you've always seemed to me like a verybright person. Perhaps I was wrong? Emotion: big smile

Dunno....it's been a very long time since I read the book. All I remember is my impression there were no clear instructions.

You were looking for the why, she was more into the how.

Remember now, back in those days, "things" were done a little differently than they are today.
Daddy: "Bobby, eat your vegetables!"
Bobby: "Why, daddy?"
Daddy: "Because I freakin' said so!"
Perhaps you are familiar with one of my all-time favoritesat your v Charles Morgan on Retrievers by Ann Fowler and D. L. Walters.

Great books.
I was frustrated with that one, when I read it shortly after acquiring my first Lab. It is not a manual for beginners.

Absolutely not, especially Walters'!
But Woodhouse's book was.
Now that I have some experience of my own, I consider it one of the most valuable books I've ever read.

As they should be. I.e., they're classics.
But wrt the Barbara Wodehouse book, it's speculation what my problem with it was. I don't remember.

But I live to speculate! Emotion: big smile

Handsome Jack Morrison
"Disproportionate" in What Moral Universe?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/27/AR2006072701725.html

Hizballah Attacked UNIFIL Twice This Week:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21801 Hizballah Attacked UNIFIL Twice This Week&only

Hezbollah was using UN post as 'shield':
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50

Obsession: Radical Islam’s War with the West (a must-see movie, especially for Shelly, who's probably still trying to figure out who "these people" are. Heck, she's still trying to figure out who the Nazis were): http://www.obsessionthemovie.com /
I stand with Israel.
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005547.htm
Two books that every American (and Canadian) must read:
1) The Rage and The Pride, by Orianna Fallacihttp://makeashorterlink.com/?J13521A6D
2) The Force of Reason, by Orianna Fallacihttp://makeashorterlink.com/?T42552A6D
While they still can.
()

Make that Walters' "Training Retrievers to Handle."

Handsome Jack Morrison
"Disproportionate" in What Moral Universe?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/27/AR2006072701725.html

Hizballah Attacked UNIFIL Twice This Week:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21801 Hizballah Attacked UNIFIL Twice This Week&only

Hezbollah was using UN post as 'shield':
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50

Obsession: Radical Islam’s War with the West (a must-see movie, especially for Shelly, who's probably still trying to figure out who "these people" are. Heck, she's still trying to figure out who the Nazis were): http://www.obsessionthemovie.com /
I stand with Israel.
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005547.htm
Two books that every American (and Canadian) must read:
1) The Rage and The Pride, by Orianna Fallacihttp://makeashorterlink.com/?J13521A6D
2) The Force of Reason, by Orianna Fallacihttp://makeashorterlink.com/?T42552A6D
While they still can.
()

Great books. Absolutely not, especially Walters'!

Make that Walters' "Training Retrievers to Handle."

Actually, that one *is* a step-by-step manual. Much easier for a novice than the Charles Morgan book. You just need to have got your dog force-fetched before starting. Of course, I was accused of being the only person ever to figure out walking baseball from the book. And there are lots of tips of the sort that mean more, the more you know about dogs.
We had to throw away a bunch of books a few years back because they got moldy. If the B.W. book I had was among them, we may never know which one it was.
OTOH, if I find it, I'll reread it and let you know.

Amy DAhl
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