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Megan,I appreciate what you've said however, I have said from the beginning that my options are limited in great measure by my location. I do not live in a house where I could dedicate a room for Big Boy until he found a home. I think I mentioned that I was advised by 3 vets that if I let him loose in my bedroom, I could not let the other guys in there for 30-60 days after he left. I compromised on that & he is now loose but I will have to get carpet cleaned, do major cleaning and all.

Not a major complaint but just to reinforce that this is at best a temporary compromise. I would readily bring him just about anywhere for a private home I just don't have one. He is not happy being all alone he's very social with other cats & the plus to shelter is that he would not be alone. Not the ideal but it may be the best I can do in my circumstances.
Why are you making this even harder on Chris? It's not like Big Boy will never get a forever home. ... good things about them. Hopefully, they can get him in. -Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net Check out www.snittens.com

Hi Kelly,I did not interpret Mary's post suggesting Chris reconsider her options as "making this even harder on Chris". Very much the opposite. Mary is encouraging Chris to do what is in the best interests of Big Boy and offering support and understanding. In the scheme of things, trying to get Big Boy adopted, hasn't been going on for long at all. He is now in a calm environment where he is being very well cared for which is a very good foster situation.

He is not living now or going to live indefinitely in a "crate in a bathroom". Chris has posted that his space has expanded to her bedroom where he can jump on her soft bed, where he has more space, and that he can go back and forth from his litter box in the bathroom to the bedroom. I think the attention he is getting from Chris is excellent as far as socializing goes and can only be helpful in terms of adoption into a home.
Placing him in a shelter in one room (one is about 20x12, the other 15x15) with, in one case, up to 15 other FelV+ cats, in the other case there are currently 6 FeLV+ cats, is not a stress-free situation. Big Boy is symptom-free and depending on the configuration of the FeLV+ population and the dynamics, it is not an ideal scenario which, I agree with Mary, one should hold out for whenever possible. No matter how well a shelter is run, with exceedingly few exceptions, funds are always an issue as is the number of staff and volunteers and how much time is available for quality human contact beyond the many duties such as feeding, cleaning, litter boxes, other cats/animals, dealing with people wanting to surrender animals, etc.

I would not want to place a symptom-free kitty, who by all accounts is doing very well under Chris' TLC, in a situation which, by necessity, is changeable as funds get low, intakes get higher, volunteers come and go, etc. The stress would be a main concern for me as is the varying human contact. The lack of continuity and stability are worrisome.

I realize that can be frustrating and that the situation might seem hopeless, but these things can take time and right now, I think the situation Big Boy is in is pretty darn good and a lot better than a shelter situation. Even the people I spoke to who own/run both Angel's Gate and Rude Ranch, who I am certain are enormously dedicated and caring, stated that a situation such as Big Boy is in now is far better than any shelter.

Chris has done a lot to try and find Big Boy a home and there are more options. I do think it is worthwhile to contact a reporter at a local paper/TV or radio station and have Big Boy's story out in the media. Exposure is key and the number of people reached via the local media is immeasurable and I think, in addition to everything else Chris has done and continues to do, very worthwhile. I also provided Chris with a link to a cat-loving group of people. One never knows who might be able to help, who is listening and lurking, and who has what contacts. Patience, creativity, and tenacity will result in a good solution. We should attempt to achieve nothing less.
Mary did no such thing and you're being completely unfair. Her concern is for the best interests of THE CAT, ... instead finding him a forever home. It can be done and I have faith in Chris to make it happen.

Yes, it can be done. That would be the ideal, to find Big Boy a forever home. I think we can all agree on that.
Where he may languish for years in a stressful environment penned up in one room with a bunch of other ... the staff or time to do all the things Chris is capable of doing to find this cat a home.

I admit, I do not have any personal experience with the shelters in question, but I think it is unfair to jump to the conclusion that this would be Big Boy's life at one of these shelters. There are many, MANY good shelters out there who do all they can for the cats entrusted in their care.
It's going to take a LONG time to find a FeLV+ cat a forever home.

You can no more predict that than you can predict what I'm having for dinner tonight. With some tenacity and ... if we all pull together and start getting his story out there I don't see why it can't be done.

You are right. There are cats at the shelter I volunteer with that we guessed would be there for a long time, and they get adopted in a week. There are also cats that we guessed would go right away, but they end up staying longer. You never know. My point was, it sounds like, from the previous posts, that Chris cannot keep Big Boy indefinetly. And I have forwarded Chris' flyer and info about Big Boy to the email list of volunteers for my shelter and also inquired with a couple shelters in this area to see if they have openings.
Have you forgotten Mister Mistopheles? When I first found out about him I had no idea how in the hell ... situation. Read the long quote at the bottom of my sigline. It truly applies to situations just like this one.

Do you have any idea of the things I do for my cats? And for my foster cats? No, I don't think you do. Convenience is certainly the last thing I think about. Are you anti-animal shelter? Just wondering.
"If." That Michigan shelter you were so ready to send him to has over 600 cats and have had some pretty serious issues in the past.

Re-read my post on that. I was NOT ready to send Big Boy to that shelter. I said someone should go take a look at it, investigate more, that's all. Clearly you did, and that was the type of info I thought was needed before making a decision.
He doesn't live in a crate in a bathroom. He is isolated in her bedroom, and that is certainly preferable to being put in a single room at a shelter with a bunch of other cats and minimal human contact.

I stand corrected. I thought he was still in the bathroom.
I really wish you would support Chris in her efforts to find Big Boy a home rather than supporting dumping ... can find the right home for Big Boy and I hope she keeps her chin up and hangs in there.

I think the ideal situation would be finding Big Boy a good home, but if you have noticed from her posts, she cannot continue this situation indefinetly. Of course, there are people who "dump" their animals at shelters, and there crappy shelters. But some of the people I have talked to through my volunteer work have already tried networking through friends and family, posting online, etc, and still can't find a home for their cat. So they are turing to our shelter. They come in, tour the place, ask questions, and then make the decision. Why are you so hard on people like this? Why are you so negative about shelters?

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Well, right now I'm thinking it may have to be shelter..I have gotten nowhere with finding a home... I plan on visiting the two when we're out of our next snowstorm & we'll see how it goes..