I did get positive responses from 2 shelters that might take Big Boy wondering if anyone has ever had contact with either place: Angel's Gate, Northport, Long Island (NY)
Rude Ranch, outside of Annapolis, Maryland
I will be visiting Angel's Gate next week (assuming we don't have much of a blizzard) & maybe try to get down to MD sometime after that. I know he would do a lot better in a home but I haven't really had any takers...
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I haven't been to either one, but I went to Angel's Gate webpage and they look wonderful. Best of luck in your search for a home for Big Boy. Please keep us updated!
Judy F
Big Boy is on waiting list at Angel's Gate I'm just not sure I can hold out that long
on 24 Jan 2004:
I did get positive responses from 2 shelters that might take Big Boy wondering if anyone has ever had contact with ... after that. I know he would do a lot better in a home but I haven't really had any takers...

I know Rude Ranch. They are very dedicated and I've met several of their volunteers at different functions. I live close to Annapolis and when I can get back to fostering, it will probably be with them. Need some help with that one, I'd be happy to help.

Cheryl
Trapped like rats. In a chia-pet.
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I did get positive responses from 2 shelters that might take Big Boy wondering if anyone has ever had contact with ... after that. I know he would do a lot better in a home but I haven't really had any takers...[/nq]Please reconsider. Is there any reason you can't keep Big Boy while you take some more time to find a home for him? He sounds like he could be a wonderful pet, and he will not get any personal attention in a shelter. I kept Duffy in one room and gave Holly the rest of the house when I was trying to slowly introduce them. Since this was to be a forever home with Duffy, I of course took other steps that are not necessary for you.

My real point is, it was a little inconvenient to keep them separate that way, but it wasn't anything major. I alternated and would sleep one night in a room with Duffy and one night in a room with Holly. Perhaps you could do the same thing. Big Boy would be far happier if you could work out something like that until you locate a permanent home for him.

MaryL
Please reconsider. Is there any reason you can't keep Big Boy while you take some more time to find a ... would be far happier if you could work out something like that until you locate a permanent home for him.[/nq]Why are you making this even harder on Chris? It's not like Big Boy will never get a forever home. He would still be available for adoption at the shelter. It's going to take a LONG time to find a FeLV+ cat a forever home. I think Chris has gone above and beyond what most people would have done. How can you say Big Boy will get "no personal attention" at the shelter? If it is a well-run, well staffed shelter, he certainly will! No, it's not like being in a home, but I can tell you at least at the shelter I volunteer with, our cats get lots of attention.

We play with the cats, talk to them, sit and hold them. I think being at a good shelter would be better than living indefintely in a crate in a bathroom.
BTW - I don't have any personal experience with Rude Ranch, but I've heard lots of good things about them. Hopefully, they can get him in.
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It's interesting that you chose my message since this is the first time I have posted in a long thread (actually, several threads but all concerning Big Boy). People who post to newsgroups are usually asking for opinions, and I gave mine. Many shelters and rescue groups do very fine work, and I have great respect for them. However, they simply cannot give the same sort of personalized attention that a person can give in a home.

I adopted my blind cat, Duffy, after he had been in a shelter for 3 months. I have the greatest admiration for them because they did everything they could to keep him alive and find a home for him and that was also a great gift to me. Nevertheless, I still think a foster home is far preferable, and that basically is what Big Boy has now.
MaryL
Why are you making this even harder on Chris?

Mary did no such thing and you're being completely unfair. Her concern is for the best interests of THE CAT, and that is as it should be. I agree 100% that the focus should not be on dumping Big Boy at a shelter and expecting someone else to deal with him, but instead finding him a forever home. It can be done and I have faith in Chris to make it happen.
It's not like Big Boy will never get a forever home. He would still be available for adoption at the shelter.

Where he may languish for years in a stressful environment penned up in one room with a bunch of other cats at various stages of illness. From what I know, the human contact these cats gets is minimal and the shelter certainly doesn't have the staff or time to do all the things Chris is capable of doing to find this cat a home.
It's going to take a LONG time to find a FeLV+ cat a forever home.

You can no more predict that than you can predict what I'm having for dinner tonight. With some tenacity and determination, which from what I can see so far Chris has alot of, a great home can be found for Big Boy. It may take some time, but it may not be a long as you think, and if we all pull together and start getting his story out there I don't see why it can't be done.Have you forgotten Mister Mistopheles? When I first found out about him I had no idea how in the hell I was going to find a good home for this cat who was not only in another state across the country, but reported to be aggressive and he had already sent the owners wife to the hospital. But I decided that if I did right by this kitty things would somehow work out and they did. When you do the right thing and stop worrying about inconvenience, instead putting the focus on what needs to be done to make it happen, things DO work out and that's how we should be thinking instead of being ok with dumping him at a shelter and expecting someone else to deal with the situation.

Read the long quote at the bottom of my sigline. It truly applies to situations just like this one.
I think Chris has gone above and beyond what most people would have done.

She's done a great job so far, and if she keeps at it she will be successful and find Big Boy his forever home.
How can you say Big Boy will get "no personal attention" at the shelter? If it is a well-run, well staffed shelter, he certainly will!

"If." That Michigan shelter you were so ready to send him to has over600 cats and have had some pretty serious issues in the past. They alsodon't know when to say no and have doubled in population in just over a year. They have 60+ cats with Leukemia confined to one room. They only have 3 full time staff and I was told that the cats get attention around feeding time and that's about it. Even the best shelters aren't in a position to give these cats the time and attention they would get in a home, and while their intentions may be good, a shelter IS NOT IDEAL.

Chris has already said that this cat is not one that would do well in a shelter, so it would be cruel and unfair to put him in such a situation. The focus must be getting this cat into a home and if we all email everyone we know, and if Chris would go to the media and push to get Big Boy's story told, along with talking in person to every vet she can and asking that they contact their clients with Felv+ cats (or cat loving dogs that don't live with any at present) to see if they would like to adopt a companion, I have no doubt that this situation can have a happy ending.

Sure, it's inconvenient to keep him seperate in the bedrooom for awhile, but we're talking about Big Boy's life and what's best for him, and that is what is most important.
Any inconvenience is a small price to pay for giving him the best possible future.
No, it's not like being in a home, but I can tell you at least at the shelter I volunteer ... them. I think being at a good shelter would be better than living indefintely in a crate in a bathroom.

He doesn't live in a crate in a bathroom. He is isolated in her bedroom, and that is certainly preferable to being put in a single room at a shelter with a bunch of other cats and minimal human contact.
BTW - I don't have any personal experience with Rude Ranch, but I've heard lots of good things about them. Hopefully, they can get him in.

I really wish you would support Chris in her efforts to find Big Boy a home rather than supporting dumping him at a shelter. I believe in Chris and even though I know it's frustratng for her, the rewards of finding him a wonderful forever home will make the temporary sacrifices she makes incredibly worthwhile. I believe that she can find the right home for Big Boy and I hope she keeps her chin up and hangs in there.

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