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One day I was canoeing and a big Cotton Mouth was just 20 feet away on the bank, I pulled out the trusted 22 automatic pistol to dispatch it.

Reason being?
Hello, All: I am located in southern Virginia. This afternoon, I saw a small snake in the water near the ... snakes, or snapping turtles, or even otters? Are there any real cases of swimmers who got bitten by these animals?

"If you're swimmin' in the creek
and something bites you on the cheek,
that's a moray."
One day I was canoeing and a big Cotton Mouth ... pulled out the trusted 22 automatic pistol to dispatch it.

Reason being?[/nq]They, and man, have no place together, a cotton mouth does not fear man, and will attack, non provoked, I've had it happen to me more than once, but I have always been able to avoid the strike, because I saw the snake before it got in range. I even had one try to get in the boat with me, because I was anchored across his path, I could not even beat him away with a fishing rod, he kept fighting it and me, I ending up shooting him, although he was in an area where he would not have harmed anyone else,, he just would not leave, and would not keep from trying to get into the boat with me, and I couldn't move the boat with the two anchors out, I couldn't get them in and fight the snake off at the same time

I "NEVER" kill non poisonous snakes, (and I know the difference) and only kill the poisonous ones when they are a threat, by just their location, sometimes. a cotton mouth within 50 yds of a swimming area, house, or area where people frequent, DIES ! It's not worth the chance of someone getting bitten. If they were rare, perhaps I would catch and transplant those that are on the bank in these areas, if it hits the water, there is no catching them, and you will get bitten trying

Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com
Snakes and turtles are desperately people-shy. Most ponds can be "safed" for routine swimming by arriving with a lot of ... have been known to cut a branch with which to beat the water before entering, sending snappers and snakes a'flying.

When young, I had occasion to play in a lo cal creek and small pond (really an old over-flow depression, slightly dammed up to make a watering hole for larger farm animals, back when there was a farm there) bordering several neighbors' yards and mine, and an old 'pig waller' where we kept various carp, too pretty to plant with the corn, caught out by a damn some miles away. We had snappers, large-ish and small, in all three watery places.
By the pig waller lived one old and ornery snapper, easily the size of a volkswagon tire, which took to eating our pretty fishies. That snapper would lurk on the edges of the waller, looking like an old and mossy rock. Several times he was trod upon by unwary or inattentive youths, and turned a neat trick of lifting his backside while bending his head and neck up and back, to catch the unsuspecting prize for supper. No matter that the child was too large to consume - a good chunk of a foot would have removed, enough for a good snapper snack.

In the creek bed lived another large snapper, prone to the same trick, which we dug out one summer (my sis and I, reminiscing about our sordid childhood while on vacation the week before last, agreed that the official reason lay with a neighbor's youngest child being just of an age to wander into the creek but not understand about rocks that are really big hungry snappers - the real reason was, well, 'cause it was there) with some assistance from a parental unit once the snapper was freed from its rocky and muddy embrace. I believe the snapper was consumed for supper by the family of the parental unit who attended the undertaking.
An old snapper, lazy and embedded in a snug mud-hole or rocky stream bed, will not flee. It will just wait for something to happen by, and, be it fish, stick or foot, will bite what it can reach, in hope of a meal or morsel.

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Snakes and turtles are desperately people-shy. Most ponds can be "safed" for routine swimming by arriving with a lot of noise,

Contrary to popular belief Snakes "can't" hear, noise is a worthless means of trying to run them off Look it ... even wake it up) until I finally hit it, then it moved, but just for a couple of seconds :-)

Don't try that in Australia. All snakes are protected here.
Regards
David Simpson
"Men have two emotions: Hungry and Horny. If you see him without an erection, make him a sandwich."
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Don't try that in Australia. All snakes are protected here.

I understand that the animals have more rights than people down there, no law against a snake or crock, killing a man, or even a small child.

How many people a year down there die to snakes, and crocks ?

Every snake in the world is not worth the life of one of my grand children.

I also understand that a gang of thugs can beat you to death, or rape your daughter, and they won't let you have a gun to protect yourself, or her, if you do have one and use it to save your life, they put you in jail.

No thanks, I'll stay here, you can have all those poisonous snakes in your yards, and let them bite your kids, instead of killing them before it happens.
Do you protect your spiders as well ? WHy not ? How about roaches, flies, ants, and mosquitos

Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com
Don't try that in Australia. All snakes are protected here.

I understand that the animals have more rights than people down there, no law against a snake or crock, killing a man, or even a small child.

We do enact a death penalty if needed. Relocation usually does the trick.
How many people a year down there die to snakes, and crocks ?

Snakes? About one every few years in spite of the fact that we have the deadliest species on the planet and the greatest number of venomous species.
Crocs? Maybe one or two a year. Some people are stupid enough to swim, or play, where the croc can get at them. Crocs are extremely fast on land ... for a very short distance.
Every snake in the world is not worth the life of one of my grand children.

So! Keep the kids away and keep them in boots. The snakes feel the vibrations and depart for parts unknown at great speed.
I also understand that a gang of thugs can beat you to death, or rape your daughter, and they won't ... yourself, or her, if you do have one and use it to save your life, they put you in jail.

Never needed a gun even though I can shoot with reasonable accuracy. My average was over 90% when I was shooting,
I know only one person who was raped and another who was subjected to an attempted home invasion. Those sorts of crimes are rare enough to merit front page stories when they do occur and they occur weeks apart. Unlike the US, where they merely report how many murders occurred that day, we can go for weeks between murders, mainly because of the lack of the coward's weapon, a gun.
Gangs of thugs, thankfully, are rare and mostly controlled by the police. Comes from having a vibrant economy and a good social security system, although the latter does drive up taxes.
No thanks, I'll stay here, you can have all those poisonous snakes in your yards, and let them bite your kids, instead of killing them before it happens.

And I'll stay here and not be worried that I'm going to be killed by a stray bullet falling out of the clear blue sky or that my front door is going to be kicked in by some stranger who wants money for his drug dependency.
Do you protect your spiders as well ? WHy not ? How about roaches, flies, ants, and mosquitos

Some spiders, yes. It depends on how rare they are and if they are native to Australia. I don't know of anyone who has been prosecuted for killing a spider though. That would make the front page here.
Regards
David Simpson
"Men have two emotions: Hungry and Horny. If you see him without an erection, make him a sandwich."
- Someone on soc.sexuality.general
David Simpson wrote Don't try that in Australia. All snakes are protected here I understand that the animals have more ... in spite of the fact that we havthe deadliest species on the planet and the greatest number o venomous species

Crocs? Maybe one or two a year. Some people are stupid enough to swim or play, where the croc can get at them. Crocs are extremely fast o land ... for a very short distance
Every snake in the world is not worth the life of one of my granchildren So! Keep the kids away ... Never needed a gun even though I can shoot with reasonable accuracyMy average was over 90% when I was shooting,

I know only one person who was raped and another who was subjecte to an attempted home invasion. Those sorts of crimes are rare enoug to merit front page stories when they do occur and they occur week apart. Unlike the US, where they merely report how many murder occurred that day, we can go for weeks between murders, mainly becaus of the lack of the coward's weapon, a gun.
Gangs of thugs, thankfully, are rare and mostly controlled by th police. Comes from having a vibrant economy and a good social securit system, although the latter does drive up taxes
No thanks, I'll stay here, you can have all those poisonous snakei your yards, and let them bite your kids, instead of killing thebefor it happens And I'll stay here and not be worried that I'm going to be killed b

stray bullet falling out of the clear blue sky or that my front doo is going to be kicked in by some stranger who wants money for his dru dependency
Do you protect your spiders as well ? WHy not ? How about roaches flies, ants, and mosquito

Some spiders, yes. It depends on how rare they are and if they ar native to Australia. I don't know of anyone who has been prosecute for killing a spider though. That would make the front page here
Regard
David Simpso
"Men have two emotions: Hungry and Horny. If you see him without an erection, make him a sandwich."
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Several years ago, I came upon a rather large snapper taking a lazy stroll across our street and decided I should help him get to the other side before a driver less cautious than myself nailed him. It was a fairly easy process. I just waved a stick in front of his face, and then used the stick to drag him to safety. The neighbors still wonder why they never see me swimming in the lake.
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