Hello, All:
I am located in southern Virginia. This afternoon, I saw a small snake in the water near the edge of a pond while taking a walk there. The snake swam near the edge and, for a few moments, got further away from the pond edge and deeper into the water; then it was trying to get out of the water and stopped half way out of the water. It then returned back to the water and disappeared maybe because it noticed that I was approaching.
There are also quite a few turtles in the pond, and I have seen ones of maybe 6 to 8 inches in size. Could these be snapping turtles?

Two years ago, I also saw otters showing up in the pond.

My question is: If one swims in such a pond, can one get bitten by either snakes, or snapping turtles, or even otters? Are there any real cases of swimmers who got bitten by these animals?

Roland
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) My question is: If one swims in such a pond, can one get bitten by ) either snakes, or snapping turtles, or even otters? Are there any real ) cases of swimmers who got bitten by these animals? )
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If you saw the turtles they probably weren't snapping turtles. Never heard of anyone being bit if swimming, but if you were to take a break and had your toes or fingers submerged near a turtle it might be inclined to try a taste..snakes I would think you would have to accidentally get tangled up with to invoke a bite...otters, doubt they would allow you to get close enough for them to decide to attack.
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) My question is: If one swims in such a pond, can one get bitten b ) either snakes, or snapping turtles, or even otters? Are there an rea
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If you saw the turtles they probably weren't snapping turtles. Never heard of anyone being bit if swimming, but if you were to take a brea and had your toes or fingers submerged near a turtle it might be inclined to try a taste..snakes I would think you would have to accidentally get tangled up with to invoke a bite...otters, doubt the would allow you to get close enough for them to decide to attack
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My question is: If one swims in such a pond, can one get bitten by either snakes, or snapping turtles, or even otters? Are there any real cases of swimmers who got bitten by these animals?

I am in SE PA. A college student here was leading a high school science class on a ecology trip down a local creek. While he was wading waist deep in the creek, all of a sudden something made a beeline toward him "like a torpedo". He fought it off with his fists, but it managed to bite him in the back side. Another student was bitten trying to help him. They both had to get rabies shots. They think it was a muskrat, either rabid or defending its young. The game commission said that they do get rabid because sometimes a fox will attack them when they are smaller.
Rabies shots today are different. No shots in the stomach. He got a series of shots getting shot in both arms, both legs and the buttocks. They are not pleasant, but less unpleasant. The other young man had to be held down to get his shots.

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Hello, All: I am located in southern Virginia. This afternoon, I saw a small snake in the water near the ... snakes, or snapping turtles, or even otters? Are there any real cases of swimmers who got bitten by these animals?

Snapping turtles are found in Virginia waters, but unless you chance upon some sleeping giant the size of a 15" auto wheel (or bigger), recorded attacks are few (but then, it's the unrecorded attacks which might raise concerns, the attacked not around to file for the record). The snakes? Having once been bitten by a teeny' little one while "gilling" for catfish, in the Southern US, the "Cottonmouth" (for the bright light mucosa inside wide-open mouths as they strike) water moccasin certainly is found in Virginia, and a big one will ruin your day. A little one certainly discomforted mine, and the legend in which snakes can't bite underwater is only legend.
Snakes and turtles are desperately people-shy. Most ponds can be "safed" for routine swimming by arriving with a lot of noise, carrying on and popping beer cans, the mild screams of dates in insufficiently sized bathing wear being groped, etc., but wise swimmers have been known to cut a branch with which to beat the water before entering, sending snappers and snakes a'flying.
Moccasins have ahabit od sunning themselves on limbs and dead brush over-hanging creeks and ponds, waiting for the occasional meal-sized wanderer to show up below. Most folks never see them. They are there, just as Rattlers abound in the woods of Virginia, most unheard and unseen, since the snakes will have long before heard the human invaders and attempted to depart/hide. That's the danger of copperheads, hiding instead of moving, and on occasion right where you're stepping/reaching.

Rumor has it that alligators are returning to some rivers in Southern Virginia, but the return of beaver in substantial numbers has not been accompanied by many frenzied beaver assaults on unwary swimmers.

TM "Doesn't taste much like chicken, either." Oliver
Hello, All: I am located in southern Virginia. Two years ago, I also saw otters showing up in the pond. ... snakes, or snapping turtles, or even otters? Are there any real cases of swimmers who got bitten by these animals?

Well, just in today's Roanoke Times we have a report of an otter biting a woman, though the game officials say it's rare.

http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/80246
Bill "otter know better than to swim in there" Ranck Blacksburg, Va.
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Could these be snapping turtles?

Poke one in the head with your finger and find out for sure.
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The other young man had to be held down to get his shots.

Yeah, that sounds like a real improvement...!
Snakes and turtles are desperately people-shy. Most ponds can be "safed" for routine swimming by arriving with a lot of noise,

Contrary to popular belief
Snakes "can't" hear, noise is a worthless means of trying to run them off

Look it up, they have no ears, or means of detecting sound, they can feel vibrations, but not at the sound levels.
One day I was canoeing and a big Cotton Mouth was just 20 feet away on the bank, I pulled out the trusted 22 automatic pistol to dispatch it. The trouble was my wife was squirming and rocking the canoe, I missed 6 times, that snake never moved,( the sound of the 22 going off did not even wake it up) until I finally hit it, then it moved, but just for a couple of seconds :-)

Rodney Long,
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