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Thanks much for the feedback. This particular breeder DOES offer health guarantees with all their birds, and in fact they go a step further and provide "birth certificates" with each bird with their birthdate, a picture shortly after birth, and the feathers from their first wing clipping. Emotion: smile It's very, very cute.
Thanks much for the feedback. This particular breeder DOES offer health guarantees with all their birds, and in fact they ... their birthdate, a picture shortly after birth, and the feathers from their first wing clipping. Emotion: smile It's very, very cute.

Personally I would not buy a bird which has had it's wings clipped. From my experience flighted parrots make better companions. They have more confidence so it's easier to gain their trust. If they don't learn to fly when they're young they never will. In my opinion there is nothing cute about a clipped bird. It's sad.
Personally I would never buy a companion bird who was fully flighted. From my experience trimmed birds make better companions. There is little difficulty developing trust and if their feathers do grow out I can either allow them to fly or trim them again. In my opinion there is nothing cute about a bird who flies out an open door and is ripped to pieces by a roaming hawk.
Really, po-ta-toe,, yada yada yada.
Bob W
(oh and I have worked with more than a few birds who indeed "learned" to fly after being clipped for eons. Enough to venture an opinion that maybe it is more instinct than education)

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Personally I would never buy a companion bird who was fully flighted. From my experience trimmed birds make better companions. ... to fly after being clipped for eons. Enough to venture an opinion that maybe it is more instinct than education)

My birds are currently flighted. The grey was allowed to learn to fly at the breeders but her wings were clipped before I brought her home. I have no idea about the U2's history but came to me clipped (at 10 yrs) She is flighted now and flies to be with me. The grey almost never flies. I think instinct . After all, birds are pretty much "hard-wired" to fly. MHO
Debbie, Dusty (cag) and Casperella (u2)
Personally I would never buy a companion bird who was ... venture an opinion that maybeit is more instinct than education)

My birds are currently flighted. The grey was allowed to learn to fly at the breeders but her wings were ... I think instinct . After all, birds are pretty much "hard-wired" to fly. MHO Debbie, Dusty (cag) and Casperella (u2)[/nq]LOL, nothing except maybe Teflon can get so many people going as wing clipping. My BCC who just flew to the back of the house and landed on me was not able to fly for the first 4 years of his life. When the kids were young I always kept him clipped, as I did not trust them. I last winter let him have all his wings and he is very good about it, does not crash. This spring I did a light clip to slow him down and he does fine. Now the Macaw is another story.

He is just too big to be allowed flight inside the house. While Lou has enjoyed allowing his birds free flight he has had close calls also. The Macaw has what he seems to think is a great life, and is according to his Doc in great shape. If you do not have kids, and can and will bird proof your house there is certainly nothing wrong with having birds flighted, but if they are well cared for there is certainly nothing wrong with a clipped pet bird, they do great.
Thanks much for the feedback. This particular breeder DOES offer health guarantees with all their birds, and in fact they ... their birthdate, a picture shortly after birth, and the feathers from their first wing clipping. Emotion: smile It's very, very cute.

These are the kind of things that make it sound to me like the breeder you are looking at may well be worth the price they charge even if it is higher. There is nothing like a WELL raised baby bird. I love my BCC to death, but he will probably never be the pet he could be because of how he was raised. He likes me, and tolerates me, but that's about it. When I have handled well raised and socialized Conures there is a BIG difference.
LOL, nothing except maybe Teflon can get so many people going as wing clipping. My BCC who just flew to ... but if they are well cared for there is certainly nothing wrong with a clipped pet bird, they do great.

Yep, touchy subject. I am thinking I might need to clip again, though. My birds don't fly willy nilly through the house, even though they are not caged most of the time. The trouble is remembering a bird is on the shoulder. My husband was on the phone with Rella on his shoulder and he started to walk out the door to look at something. I stopped him and pointed at the bird. He had forgotten. Plus our house has a very "open" flor plan and with the warmer temps I like to have all my ceiling fans going.Also, when the girls are clipped they can sit on the porch with us. Debbie
Personally I would not buy a bird which has had it's wings clipped. From my experience flighted parrots make better companions.

and in your experience they also fly away never to be seen again.
They have more confidence so it's easier to gain their trust.

bullshit
If they don't learn to fly when they're young they never will.

They don't need to.
In my opinion there is nothing cute about a clipped bird. It's sad.

as are you

James
Furthermore, this thing about there being other breeders I can visit and why am I here asking... I really think you're misunderstanding the entire point of this post, Alex.

he usually does miss the point because he's to eager to preach
I'm making what I consider to be a major purchase and I'm not doing so without doing my homework. If ... impart in the last paragraph a bit more if you didn't assume I was approaching this from a "tightass" perspective.

Have you asked the breeder why his blue crowns are more expensive than the his sun conures when it's usually the complete opposite?

I'm sure alex didn't think you were a "tightass" It's more likely that he thought you were just piss poor.

James
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