An update on Fly's flyball training:
After approximately two and a half weeks of flyball lessons, Fly is retrieving a tennis ball over four jumps and doing a box turn on command. Watching her current speed, there is no reason to believe that she will not run between four and five seconds when she is on a team. We do not practice between lessons as I have no equipment. Lessons are once a week.

Fly has never been on lead at flyball class and pays no attention to the other dogs. She is working exclusively for a tug toy. She learned to tug approximately two days before starting flyball class. The training is child's play to her and she could probably be in class for three hours straight without coming close to burning out.
Fly is going to be five years old on Christmas.
Someone tell me how Border Collies have to be bred for sports to be good at sports again?

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An update on Fly's flyball training: After approximately two and a half weeks of flyball lessons, Fly is retrieving a ... on Christmas. Someone tell me how Border Collies have to be bred for sports to be good at sports again?

I didn't see anyone here arguing that bc's have to be bred for sports to be good at sports, although there may be people who agree with that.
She is working exclusively for a tug toy. She learned to tug approximately two days before starting flyball class.

Sounds like a typical flyball dog. Most teams don't want any food on the flyball field anyway, so there will be no food aggression. Sounds also like you have been underestimating other dogs abilities and confusing the confused breeders with the better ones.
That hasn't been my experience. Tugs don't run out though, and many feel the action of tugging is a better release of energy and getting revved up again. A lot of people DO use food.
Lucy is exclusively food. We started with a tug. but I needed to get her attention off the passing dog more, so we went to squeeze cheese. Franklin is a little too enthusiastic with the tug (my hand was getting a bit damaged) and he gets SO motivated by the tug, that he drops the ball. With food (same cheese) he does beautifully.
Lucy was a little sluggish yesterday (5, 5 ot 5 races Saturday, 3 yesterday), so I moved up to turkey left over from the dinner at the hosting tournamant site. It helped a lot (I usually have SOMETHING even yummier than the cheese to use as a "bump up").
Only 340 more points until her ONYX!! Hopefully we'll do that on December 7th - wish us luck.
Saw a really ugly but fast Border-Border-Border this weekend. Can't remember which part was the 2/3 (BC or BT). Very odd looking dog. And a BC built like a BT, but pure BC. Not my cup of tea - I'll stick with good Multi dogs!
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I certainly don't think *I* have to go to a sports breeder to get what I want. {Should I decide on a BC, that is.} I just think it'll be easier, since the sport breeder I'm considering is doing the testing I'd like to see done on the parents, and the dogs are very successful in my sport. May not matter, as I might be getting a British BC. We'll see. I love the planning aspect of getting a new dog.
Debbie
Still looking at rescue sites, too!
May not matter, as I might be getting a British BC. We'll see.

Hey, that's what I did, and I ain't sorry!

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I love the planning aspect of getting a new dog.

Oh, me too. I've been planning my next dog that I won't be getting for a few years! LOL
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I love the planning aspect of getting a new dog.

I do as well. I love the researching, the asking around, checking out new dogs. Jeez, I can barely wait for this next year's Nationals, just so I can see some of the dogs that are "on my list"!
A friend just let me know that she has a litter due right around Christmas. And I've told her in the past, "If you ever breed Tessa, I'd be interested..." She recently finished her AKC & Can UDX, works sheep in a nice steady, calm & confident manner, and has to-die-for rock-solid temperament by the book standard temperament. (In other words, she's probably
a bit more "aloof" than I like typical ***)
Well crap. I know that I'm not ready for another yet. I keep telling myself that over & over again.
Hey, at least I'll get to go to the puppy temperment tests! Shelly & The Boys
I thought that New Dog would arrive in '04. I"m starting to consider waiting til '05. Maybe '06. I"m not getting any younger, and I'd like to eventually have fewer dogs. I"m concerned that as I age, I won't be able to give them the kind of life I think they should have. Also, Kira takes a lot of time and energy. She's incredibly talented and driven, and I want to do right by her.
Debbie
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