I just purchased a male chocolate lab from allegeheny ridge kennel www.puppydogweb.com/kennels/labs alegehenyridge.htm please check his site, nowhere does it mention limited registration!
for $750. everything went well until I wanted to fill out the AKC registration form. The breeder had checked off limited registration. I had no idea that this even existed. So I immediatly called him. He said thats how he sells his puppy's.I told him he never mentioned anything about it to me.
I told him I wanted to possibly do dog shows if the dog showed potential & possibly breed him,that's why I was purchasing a AKC dog with papers. He wants $500 more to remove the limited registration.I told him I wouldn't of bought the dog from him . I then asked if he would take the puppy back &refund my $750(this is all in the same day I took the puppy home)he said no! I told him I didn't think It was fair to me,that he decieved me & wasn't even willing to refund my money. So I called him again & said he's leaving me no choice but to take him to court.He then said I was threating him.Finally he said I could return the dog on sat. after christmas.Now on XMAS eve he calls my wife & says he decieded not to take the dog back(I've had the pup for 4 days now) I told him i will see him in court.I called akc & they said he should have explained the limited registration to me & had me sign a bill of sale stating I was aware of limited registration.

which I did not.Believe me the last thing I want is to go to court.I tried to be reasonably but he won't budge. If that's how he sells his puppy's fine, but I think the customer should be told. Buyer's beware don't let this happen to you. If anyone has any advice plese reply.I really love the puppy & really want to keep him, but I had certain plans for his development & training, but it would all be in vain if I can't breed him or enter him in conformation shows.
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see him in court.I called akc & they said he should have explained the limited registration to me & had me sign a bill of sale stating I was aware of limited registration. which I did not.Believe me the last

This is a very important thing that every responsible breeder does need to be aware of. Most of us DO sell pet puppies on a limited registration, but I clearly state this in the contract (which the buyer has for review weeks before getting the puppy) and discuss it in detail with the potential buyers.
Did AKC give you any ideas of action they would take.
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I just purchased a male chocolate lab from allegeheny ridge kennel www.puppydogweb.com/kennels/labs alegehenyridge.htm please check his site, nowhere does it ... if I can't breed him or enter him in conformation shows. DON'T DO BUSSINESS WITH ALEGEHENY RIDGE LABRADORS!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

Dave
As I understand it, nobody can actually "charge" anyone for AKC papers - which he is obviously trying to do. The AKC "owns" the registration papers and they cannot be "sold" by the breeder.
Contact AKC and explain everything in full.
Sorry to hear of your trouble. It's too bad that the breeder didn't make you aware of this in the first place.
By the way, did you actually "tell" him you were looking for a show and possible breeding dog before purchase?
Most responsible breeders do in fact sell puppies on a limited reg. if they feel they would not measure up as quality examples of their breed and on the other hand, most breeders are thrilled when someone comes along and is willing to show one of their pups.
EGD
I just purchased a male chocolate lab from allegeheny ridge kennel www.puppydogweb.com/kennels/labs alegehenyridge.htm please check his site, nowhere does it ... if I can't breed him or enter him in conformation shows. DON'T DO BUSSINESS WITH ALEGEHENY RIDGE LABRADORS!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

I think, and may be wrong, that limited registration can be upgraded to full registration later on. The conformation people here can answer this better than I can but I'd think that as long as he's intact, you should be able to enter him into conformation trials. If he wins a ribbon then you can go back to the breeder with the ribbon and demand the registration be upgraded so you can continue his show career.

Tara
I think, and may be wrong, that limited registration can be upgraded tofull registration later on. The conformation people here ... go back to the breeder with the ribbon and demand the registration beupgraded so you can continue his show career.

No, a dog on limited registration cannot be entered in a conformation show. The breeder would have to change the registration prior to the dog being entered.
I don't think demanding anything of the breeder would be the right way to go, anyway. It sounds like they aren't very responsible, in that they are charging extra for full registration, and refusing to take the puppy back. But the buyer admittedly did not indicate he wanted a puppy to breed (I highly doubt he really wants to show him!) and both people are at fault.

Christy
Seems to me you were just as non forthcoming, so you deserve each other.
This is a case where you should check local laws: Anywhere in Canada the breeder would have had to take the puppy back, (the shortest back out time on a contract here is 3 days). Most, if not all, US states have similar laws.
But the buyer admittedly did not indicate he wanted a puppy to breed (I highly doubt he really wants to show him!) and both people are at fault.

While caveat emptor applies, there are quite clearly false pretenses on the part of the breeder.
Christy

Phoenix
This is a case where you should check local laws: Anywhere in Canada the breeder would have had to take the puppy back, (the shortest back out time on a contract here is 3 days). Most, if not all, US states have similar laws.

What is that law in Canada? Is it in with the rest of the purebred dog statutes or is it general contract law? Most states in the US do not have any back out time in regard to puppy purchases. There are a few, very specific, contract types that have something like a 3 day back out. These are primarily in home sales contracts, and two or three others that have a high level of abuse. This issue is indeed commonly misunderstood. Plenty of contract signers have ended up committed even though they did know the contract terms because they counted on that non-existent back out period.
Diane Blackman
Everyone please understand, This is my first pure bred dog with paperwork. I'm going to try & train him to the best of my ability & never had plans on breeding or showing the dog. But if somehow he showed excellent ability I would look into it further, But with the paperwork I recieved I wouldn't be able to do anything with him.
I was never decietful with the breeder, My problem is I don't have any choice with the limited reg. I just feel as he should have stated the terms to me,How am I wrong in wanting that?OF the two of us he was the only one who was sure that it even existed.Why didn't he ask me if I ever wanted to go to dog shows or breed.He is the one with 11 years experience.Why are some people trying to make me out to be the bad guy.
The same day I took the pup home I tried to straighten out with the breeder.As some of you stated you gladly would have taken the dog back. I even offerered to meet him half way on the $500 extra he wanted & offered him another $250 just to put it to rest.Believe me this isn't some elaborate scheeme I have of buying puppy's for $750 & driving 200 mi.each way to get him only to want a refund or the full paperwork I should hav gotten! Limited registration is all new to me, it was introduced in 1990 I think by the AKC. Why would anyone want a dog with AKC papers that they never could do anything with?
to be in dog shows you need AKC papers.
to breed your dog you need AKC papers.
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