Hi everyone,
does anyone got some personal experience with this breed ? how trainable are they ? how are they with kids ?
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Hi everyone, does anyone got some personal experience with this breed ? how trainable are they ? how are they with kids ?

If you want a dog who is eager to work together with you, and to follow your direction then a Canaan is not a good choice. Canaans, like the majority of dogs, are fine with children who are respectful of the dog. They will be less likely to tolerate being pulled, teased, shoved etc than some breeds. They are not a child's dog. While they make fine companions they don't necessarily make good pets. Good pets being the kind of critters who seem to do well regardless of lack of attention to manners training, socialization etc. They are also fairly high in prey drive.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canaani-L /
The Canaan appeals primarily to people who are not seeking an easy dog. They like the fact that the Canaan has its own mind and focus. They don't mind that compliance is more a form of negotiation than desire to serve.

Diane Blackman
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does anyone got some personal experience with this breed ? how trainable are they ? how are they with kids ?

Having done a little research on the breed, I'll echo Diane's comment that they are good with kids who are good with dogs. They are not easily trained in that they are not eager to please, though they are clever. Also, I understand they can be barkers.
I like the breed and am interested in it further but I already have a breed not know for being Good Dogs.

-Andrea Stone
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i read every piece of information on the net, looked through all the web sites and even talked to breeders.
Did anyone have a bad experience with that breed ?
i read every piece of information on the net, looked through all the web sites and even talked to breeders. Did anyone have a bad experience with that breed ?[/nq]What do you mean by "bad experience"? I can't think of a single breed where every dog meets expectations. And I can think of a ton of breeds, the Canaan included, where people are unrealistic about what the dog IS compared to what they imagined it would be. For example, I know a person who got a dog of that breed. The person enjoyed going to the dog park regularly. The dog was dog aggressive. She found this to be a problem. But the fault was hers, not that of the dog.

The dog was behaving within expectation of the breed. I know another person who wanted to do agility. There are a fair number of Canaan's in agility. But this person was not prepared for the work involved. The Canaan was not particularly interested in staying in the ring, and not interested in working with her. The person found this to be a problem. Again, the problem was the gap between what she wanted and what was normal for the breed. On the Canaan list a person was describing their dog as very friendly with strangers.

This was not a problem, but it could have been if the desire was for the dog to act reserved as one should expect for the breed. Many people who get a breed known for being reserved and/or protective think they have a "bad" (or inappropriate) dog if it is more friendly than typical.
There are poorl bred, bad temperamented Canaans being bred the same as any other breed. I even know of a Canaan puppy mill.

Diane Blackman
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i read every piece of information on the net, looked through all the web sites and even talked to breeders. Did anyone have a bad experience with that breed ?

Anyone can have a bad experience with any breed.
If someone did have a bad experience, is is mostly it's because they picked a breed which was not appropriate for them or their lifestyle. There was recently a wonderful TV show about Canaans. I'm a fairly experienced dog person, but they wouldn't be a breed I would chose. I found them very interesting but slightly on the feral side - a little like the Jindo for example.
I gather the foremost authority on the breed is a lady in Israel who has tons of them. She takes her bitches out into the deserts to find tribes who have Canaans with old undocumented lines and unrelated to her dogs. Some of her dogs are truly gorgeous. I wish I could remember her name for you, but it now escapes me. I believe the TV show was a National Geographic but am not sure about that. You should be able to find out about this lady with a little work however.
I'll bet if you get in touch with the National Canaan breed clubs, someone will know about her. Her thoughts on breeding are certainly interesting. Regarding how good they are with children - that's an impossible question to answer not knowing how experienced you are as a dog trainer, how strict you are about never leaving any dog alone with a child at any time and how strict you are about teaching your children to respect animals and not be allowed to treat them as toys etc.
EGD
If someone did have a bad experience, is is mostly it's because they picked a breed which was not appropriate for them or their lifestyle.

Or a dog atypical of the breed.
There was recently a wonderful TV show about Canaans. I'm a fairly experienced dog person, but they wouldn't be a breed I would chose.

Nor I, from what little I know of them.
I gather the foremost authority on the breed is a lady in Israel who has tons of them. She takes her bitches out into the deserts to find tribes who have Canaans with old undocumented lines and unrelated to her dogs.

How does one know "unrelated" when the animal is "undocumented"?

MHH
Her ideas on breeding were certainly different. She apparently investigates travelling "tribes" who have dogs which have not been bred outside their own for many generations (maybe hundreds of years) and live well away from civilization. She enlists the help of someone who knows where these people might be and then travels hundreds of miles through the most dreadful deserts to find them. Once found, it's not a case of just breeding but apparently building up some kind of friendship with them first - aided by her helper who speaks the language - although she apparently speaks whatever they speak, also to some degree.

There is often a great deal of required etiquette which one must go through first in most cases. Plus the fact that these people had never seen her before and wonder what she's really there for since I expect to them, it seemed very strange anyone would come half way across some desert just to breed a dog.
She doesn't do this kind of outcross all the time obviously, but does take certain bitches on such jouneys. It was all very interesting. Also many of these dogs she did find, were not willing to come very close to her even with a *** in season. Many stood their ground away from her and just continued to bark aggressively.
Watching a breeding which did eventually take place, I really wondered about the safety of the *** one tied considering the very wary dog might have wanted to get away from her.
EGD
I gather the foremost authority on the breed is a lady in Israel who has tons of them. She takes her bitches out into the deserts to find tribeswho have Canaans

I think you might be talking about Myrna Shiboleth, yes?
I'll bet if you get in touch with the National Canaan breed clubs, someone will know about her.

http://www.itb.it/canaan/icdca /
http://cdca.org /

-Andrea Stone
Saorsa Basenjis
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The Trolls Nest - greenmen, goblins & gargoyle wall art www.trollsnest.com
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