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But by feeding them you're creating an unnatural condition allowing many more to be born than ordinarily would be.

No, food is a very natural condition for the cat.

No, having a human there feeding them is not natural. There's nothing natural about it.
What is unnatural is neutering and spaying the poor animals.

There is nothing harmful about neutering cats and dogs. All it does is remove their ability to produce more cats and dogs to be put to sleep in our already overcrowded shelters. More to die by predation and disease and more to get run over on the streets and roads.
I wouldn't do that to a mouse.

It's a shame you care nothing about the suffering of homeless domestic cats.
**I care about cats so much that I care about the whole cat.
How much do you have to pay to keep from feeding your cat animal digest (ughh!)? I am helping the ... any clean dry cat foods that don't cost too much, so I can help out more wild neighborhood cats? Mark

Hello,
For my barn kitties i purchase whole chickens (when on sale), or turkey; cook them; freeze them, and about every three days or so throw whole, frozen bird to the pride. This way even the weak, injured, sick, worm-eaten, pregnant and kittens get a bite, because the whole bird itis too heavy for the stronger ones to carry it away. They have their dry "sht" food in a self-feed container 24 hours a day, and if they want to eat it, that it is their problem. I usually get the (now up to) $12.00 a bag food, but am considering getting cheaper food so that i donot die of starvation.As far as "population" . . . think Pneumonic and Bubonic Plague. Had it not been for the Maltese kitty imported by some wise gentlemen, the entire white race wouldhave been wiped out by the BLACK PLAGUE: Something is attracting the growing pride to your neighborhood, and itis usually garbage cans in-mass, in a crowded neighborhood . . . hello, RATS/INFECTED FLEAS. Also let us think about when the terrorists dump off a ship-load of BlackPlague-infected, flea-infested mice and rats all along our shores to kill us, the way the Maltese cat was done to save us from our own stupidity.

In England etc. they had begun to over-breed their kitties to be too big and beautiful to be able to fit into areas where rodents live, thus couldnot kill the infected rats and mice. The rat population grew and grew, thus the fleas, thus the Pneumonic and Bubonic Plague. Speaking of bullsht and hinny flue: is it really the "flu" infecting us right now - last count 1,000 dead? No hinny flu shots available? Really?
Usually in a pride, one male will chase away all the other males; inbreeding causes weakness and nature does the rest, which is called SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST and there is nothing wrong with that, and that is called MotherNature.
I feel kitties are God's most favorite animal on His Earth, or else why would there be so many happy kitties?
I like dead chickens better than dead kitties, soo, keep on a trucken the dead chickens to the live kitties and be happy.

For the rest of you . . . go feed a chicken and barbaque a kitty.

Truly
Truth will set you free according to Jesus in John 8:32

PS in Guam they eat delicious kitties - donot knock it until you try it - just wait until the kittyfur coat comes back - just one Cat- scratch-fevour-infected kitty carrier can eliminate your entire pride . . . here today gone tomorrow . . . now tell me agian, God doesnot know what He is doing . . .
**I've got one male cat daddy, one female cat momma, and one of their mutual litter, still half adult size.
And they get along great.
They're all wild cats, and the dad looks the most beat up, having only one eye...he must have lost the other one in a fight.

I can't resist feeding them. They just show their gratitude so well, through means I still cannot put into words correctly enough to give it justice.
Good luck on your farm.
Mark
Suddenly, without warning, Mark Earnest exclaimed (11/2/2009 12:07 AM):

You seem to think that if a male cat sees ... it down, out of respect. Cats have much self control.

ha! My cat refuses 9 lives too, has nothing to do with self control - she just hates the stuff.

You don't think she meant it for the less fortunate alley cats? She just may have, you know. Maybe some animals only take what they need.
Mama cats will give up food for her kittens. If her kittens weren't there, she could be refusing food because ... for, and IMHO do have the same emotions as people, they do not have the same motivations and thought processes.

I always looked at populations of creatures collectively, as if they all get together and do a mutual thing for the benefit of the whole.
Kind of like some of us do come election day.
Understanding the animals that share our lives, not just cats, but horses, dogs, and the lot, is key to a ... think, how they see things from THEIR POINT OF VIEW, not ours - that's anthropomorphizing, and that's what you're doing.

Well, the writers of cartoons like Garfield have been successful and made good money off of anthropomorphizing cats for a long time, so there must be something to it.
I trained my cat, but wasn't any good at it when I would ascribe human thought processes to her reactions. Once I understood the world, however imperfectly, from her point of view, my ability to train her improved tremendously.

Cats are like us, but are also alien to us in many ways IMHO.
No, not tricks, just things like asking permission to be on my lap (I'm a small person and Meep + ... front window is sunny. No, actually, what she's saying is "please feed me" Emotion: smile Off to do as she commands!

Cat power! No wonder groups of them are called prides. They are top of the food chain.
Mark
ha! My cat refuses 9 lives too, has nothing to do with self control - she just hates the stuff.

You don't think she meant it for the less fortunate alley cats? She just may have, you know. Maybe some animals only take what they need.

How would she know about less fortunate alley cats? Where are you getting these ideas from?
I hope you eventually learn that though cats and other ... they do not have the same motivations and thought processes.

I always looked at populations of creatures collectively, as if they all get together and do a mutual thing for the benefit of the whole.

Which is irrelevant to what's being discussed. Unnaturally fed cats will reproduce and eventually end up in a shelter. That's the bottom line.
Understanding the animals that share our lives, not just cats, ... not ours - that's anthropomorphizing, and that's what you're doing.

Well, the writers of cartoons like Garfield have been successful and made good money off of anthropomorphizing cats for a long time, so there must be something to it.

Are we talking about businesses and cartoons, or real live cats?
By the way, she says Good Morning, just joined me ... "please feed me" Emotion: smile Off to do as she commands!

Cat power! No wonder groups of them are called prides. They are top of the food chain.

Not here in the USA. Roaming housecats and strays become dinner for red and blue fox, coyotes, large hawks..
It's a shame you care nothing about the suffering of homeless domestic cats.

**I care about cats so much that I care about the whole cat.

No you don't. You have some agenda and it's not caring about the "whole" cat. The longest lived and healthiest cats are the cats that are neutered and kept indoors.
**I care about cats so much that I care about the whole cat.

No you don't. You have some agenda and it's not caring about the "whole" cat. The longest lived and healthiest cats are the cats that are neutered and kept indoors.

How do you know how happy a cat is?
Neutering takes away from a male cat's sporting ways, and takes away his adventurous spirit. And spaying deprives a female cat of what she is created for.
How much do you have to pay to keep from feeding your cat animal digest (ughh!)? I am helping the ... any clean dry cat foods that don't cost too much, so I can help out more wild neighborhood cats? Mark

Hi Mark,
I'd really like to help you with neighborhood cats. If you let me know where you're located I'll bring over a few 20# bags and a few cases of cat food. Only the good stuff.
Phil
How much do you have to pay to keep from ... so I can help out more wild neighborhood cats? Mark

Hi Mark, I'd really like to help you with neighborhood cats. If you let me know where you're located I'll bring over a few 20# bags and a few cases of cat food. Only the good stuff.

Marry me, Phil. Oh no, wait, I am already married.
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