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Glad to hear that your Macaw didn't injure itself on the cage.

Was that bolt accessable from inside of the cage??? If so I'd be willing to bet that your bird, or ANY bird kept in a similar cage would learn how to undo the bolt in short order and how to open the door(s).

Herman
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Don't underestimate the strength of even the smallest of parrots as they just might surprise ya. My Lovebird can just barely lift the main door, but not enough to enable him to escape. Not that that is a problem anymore as I have a birdbath in the main door.
I use that for his water cup as I got tired of cleaning his water cup and replacing the water every five minutes cause he has the bad habit of constantly soiling his water cup. With the birdbath for a water cup he can drink his water take the occasional bath without worrying about soiling it.

I'd tried to use a "gravity fed" water container like the gravity fed seed containers and he was able to take a bath in the small part that stuck into his cage. I sat there and watched him do it, and to this day I still cannot tell ya how he did it.
Herman
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BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE Hash: SHA1 Glad to hear that your Macaw didn't injure itself on the cage. Was that ... in a similar cage would learn how toundo the bolt in short order and how to open the door(s). Herman

Thanks, we were sure glad we were in the room when it happened. the bolt was put it from the outside when the door was closed. If we left it in with him out of the cage I'm sure he would work it out, but from inside the cage there would be no way. What they need to do is put a spring latch like the main door has.

"What a wonderful world it is that has girls in it!" (Lazarus Long)
for would could hole. The large cages have a small ... a beak or claw. Impossible in both kinds of cages.

Don't underestimate the strength of even the smallest of parrots asthey just might surprise ya. My Lovebird can just barely ... still cannottell ya how he did it. Herman BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE Version: PGP 8.0 iQA/AwUBP4SPQh/i52nbE9vTEQJBFACfRjvsIzEzcbsrefqATRDJLTpEG+QAn0kb yZDCV7niSSCjTJS+NDPWgWmC =lWDW END PGP SIGNATURE

I know plenty about our Lovie's escaping when we had both of them. But Poppet has gotten even worse since losing Po-Po almost 2 years ago. We also have a birdbath in the space of the front door it's about the only place we know she can't escape from. We use to have a separate gravity fed water container for her, but she never used it and we'd always see her drinking from the bath, since she's been ill it's even better because we can gauge exactly how much water(and suspended antibiotic) she has been drinking.
We had to wire tie the 4 spring-loaded plastic food doors closed as they had on more than one occasion managed to somehow manoeuvre the plastic food containers out and quite often we'd come home to find them sitting quite happily on top of the cage, unable to get back in! Since then we've used stainless steel food bowls, which they were both happy with .. plenty of space for food, easily cleanable and comfy for them to stand on the rim, oh yes and indestructible!
Poppet has over the past year actually managed to prise open one of the end doors, however these are now wire tied too, she has amazing strength for such a small bird though. The oddest thing is, when we leave her bath off or one of the doors opened she'll come out for a look and then just go back in, maybe it's a bit of Houdini in all Parrots??
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I know plenty about our Lovie's escaping when we had both of them. But Poppethas gotten even worse since losing ... come out for a look and then just go back in, maybe it's a bit of Houdini in all Parrots??

Ian,
Have any of your Lovebirds ever bathed in the gravity fed water container like Neo has done? Like I said even though I was there watching him do it, I still for the life of me CANNOT figure out how the hell he did it. . .

That said, amen to the amount of strength those little guys have. . .Looking at how small they are ya'd never know that they had it in them. . .;-) When I tied the door food cup doors down I used bread twist ties and twisted them on the outside of the cage. Cutting/breaking off the excess as close to the cage as I could, and folding over whatever was left over so that there wasn't anything for Neo to get caught on.
I'm also glad to hear that I am NOT the only one to trade the "traditional" water cup for a birdbath to be used as both. . .Lovebirds do LOVE their baths don't they. . .;-)
And I am VERY happy to hear that Poppet is still getting better/stronger. She is a little fighter isn't she. . .;-)
Herman
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BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE Hash: SHA1 Glad to hear that ... in short order and how to open the door(s). Herman

Thanks, we were sure glad we were in the room when it happened. the bolt wasput it from the outside ... latch like the main door has. "What a wonderful world it is that has girls in it!" (Lazarus Long)

The main thing is that your baby was unharmed. And it's good to hear that the bolt goes in from the outside, as opposed from the inside.

Which RAH books do you like?
Herman
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The main thing is that your baby was unharmed. And it's good to hear thatthe bolt goes in from the outside, as opposed from the inside. Which RAH books do you like? Herman

We can't bolt it anymore, since we used the replacement piece they sent us with no hole it it. We just use a Master lock, with a long shackle. Bout a pack of them keyed alike. Put one on the top door, one on the breeder box door when we leave the house.
Which RAH books do you like? Don't know what you mean by this?
"What a wonderful world it is that has girls in it!" (Lazarus Long)
Which RAH books do you like? Herman

LOL, of as soon as I read Bobs response it hit me what you meant. I have read all of his over the years. "Time Enough For Love" is the one I take many of my sig lines from. that book I have read a couple times. Hard to put it down once you start.

"What a wonderful world it is that has girls in it!" (Lazarus Long)
Every blinking one, LOL.
Bob W
Paternally "Long"
Maternally "Johnson"
I intend to live for ever!
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