Kavik had a bladder infection as a pup.
Kavik has always been extremely suspicious of those who would attempt to collect his pee. I remember having to hide in a bush while mike walked him on the other side of the bush and try to manuever the pie plate into position amongst the thorns. If Kavik noticed the pie plate he would quickly move away and give us both a look of disgust. He might have called us "perv's" but I am not sure.
Over three years later Kavik is having some symptoms again -the leaking isnt' just related to hellos. I called the vet made an appointment and vowed to bring a sample. This time I had a secret weapon. RPDB members had told me to get some sort of stick and a dixie cup. Attach the stick to the dixie cup and voila - a pee catcher with reach.
So this morning, I made the pee catcher. The first time i made it, I put the cup on upside down. Doh. Next time I got it right. Then we all go outside. I figured that if it was first pee of the morning it would be a long pee and I would have lots of time to catch some.

Out we go into the backyard. Kavik is already looking at me funny for following him to the fence, so he detours. He goes to sniff so I jockey into position. He goes to lift his leg but notices the pee catcher. "PERV!!" he thought, and ran. He stopped halfway across the yard and glared at me. It was then I noticed he was peeing at the same time. Racing over there I managed to capture five drops of pee in my cup. But then he was done and running off yelling GET AWAY FROM ME YOU PERV.

So, I take the boys to work, figuring I will give them lots of baited water and then put Kavik on a leash and walk him with the pee catcher. Maybe at work he might not noticed the pee catcher. But turns out Kavik will no longer pee in the presence of the pee catcher.
Plan three. My coworker Katy comes outside and greets Kavik in a high pitched voice, which ALWAYS induces pee leaking. I hold his collar, poised ready with my cup. Nothing happens. Not a drop of leakage. But he doesn't notice my pervie behavior and so I hand Katy the leash and we go for a little walk to the nearest telephone pole. He lifts his leg and i put the cup into position. He stops before any fluid comes up.

Damn. At least Katy is amused. As we walk him back to the car I notice as we walk he is attempting to sneak a walking pee and I manage to dive underneath with my cup and capture at least 20 more drops before he turns off the faucet. Of course, far more than 20 drops end up on my hand, but at least I got the sample.
Took him to the vet, and yes, he has crystals again. Special diet. No treats until the ph goes down. Cranberry extract. And...the best part?? I have to bring in another sample in a week.
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Kavik had a bladder infection as a pup. Kavik has always been extremely suspicious of those who would attempt to collect his pee.

Why don't you provide your dog with reinforcement when he urinates? Over successive urinations stand closer and closer to him as he urinates. In this way, you will be able to stand next to him to catch his urine. Also, you don't need something as big as a pie plate to catch urine.
Marshall
Took him to the vet, and yes, he has crystals again. Special diet. No treats until the ph goes down. Cranberry extract. And...the best part?? I have to bring in another sample in a week.

Oh that's too funny, Beth! Emotion: smile I wish you luck in obtaining your next sample, and hope the crystals resolve themselves quickly!

-Abby
Pems, Aussie, and a Pug
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Kavik had a bladder infection as a pup. Kavik has always been extremely suspicious of those who would attempt to collect his pee.

Why don't you provide your dog with reinforcement when he urinates? Over successive urinations stand closer and closer to him ... to him to catch his urine. Also, you don't need something as big as a pie plate to catch urine.

I guess I should, now that it appears we may need to collect the piddle on more frequent occasions.
As for the pie plate, the dixie cup doesnt' work either. Maybe a thimble!!
Kavik had a bladder infection as a pup. Kavik has always been extremely suspicious of those who would attempt to ... move away and give us both a look of disgust. He might havecalled us "perv's" but I am not sure.

Been there!
Try it when the vet is 15 mins drive away, you have a 6 pm appointment, and the vet is stipulating that the sample MUST be less than 20 mins old.. and I had to be out for much of that day too.
Luckily, I managed to escape early and she'd been 'puppy-sat' by a bloke who has 2 dogs himself so she'd had a busy afternoon and was more than happy to sleep as soon as she came home. She woke up at 5.35 as Pete came through the door, just ready to take us up there, and in true form the first thing she wanted on waking was a waz.
We had a little plastic scoop thing with a bottle handle but I still got as much as on as me in the scoop.
Diana
Took him to the vet, and yes, he has crystals again. Special diet. No treats until the ph goes down. Cranberry extract. And...the bestpart?? I have to bring in another sample in a week.

Awww...poor Kavik. He's one smart boy!
I use the unbent clothes hanger method w/ a dixie cup (or, a specimen cup, I usually have a wrapped one around here since Guiness would get bladder infections now & then towards the end). It works well, but my boys just have no shame. And...after 4 years, Coda is NOW lifting his leg. And...since Bodhi saw him do it (all those countless other boy dogs never mattered, it seems), he also lifts his leg.
Funny dogs.
Oh, I had to laugh. Yesterday I was scooping the yard, talking to the dogs in some silly chattery voice, just being an all-around dork. I said a bunch of stuff, blah, blah, blah, "poop" this & that, "poop" (I can't remember even what I was saying, just talking to them). Bodhi must've thought that because I said "poop", it was time to go. So he squated right next to me & went.
I guess he's trained fairly well to go when I tell him! Shelly & The Boys
Took him to the vet, and yes, he has crystals again. Special diet. No treats until the ph goes down. Cranberry extract. And...the best part?? I have to bring in another sample in a week.

Best wishes for Kavik to get better soon.
Best wishes for collecting pee. Seems like
it would be a difficult task.
Gwen
As for the pie plate, the dixie cup doesnt' work either. Maybe a thimble!!

If he's used to a plastic bag in your hand for scooping poop, you can use a ziploc bag for catching pee without arousing his suspicions too much.

Suja
Best wishes for collecting pee. Seems like it would be a difficult task. Gwen

I use a large disposable plastic cup. "Do your business", hold the cup under him, and it's done. The joys of having a cooperative and non-suspicious dog.

Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
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