If Alex didn't like the life he had he had the option of just sinking his beak into Irene P.'s hand and refusing to play her games.

He bonded to Dr.Pepperberg, he loved her, and propably could not hurt her even if he wanted to. She no doubt loved him too but he was also a reaserch subject to her.

This film illustrates what I am talking about. Poor little plucker Alex tells her six times that he's got enough but she persists at him, forcing him, even with body contact, as she nears a big tray towards his leg in order to elicit a response from him.
No wonder he died pre-maturely.
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Suddenly, without warning, M.J. exclaimed (10/2/2007 6:09 PM):
If Alex didn't like the life he had he had ... into Irene P.'s hand and refusing to play her games.

He bonded to Dr.Pepperberg, he loved her, and propably could not hurt her even if he wanted to. She no ... tray towards his leg in order to elicit a response from him. No wonder he died pre-maturely.
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Poor guy. I do understand that Dr. Pepperberg probably loved Alex, but in watching this, and some other videos, he seems to be clearly trying to let her know he's had enough, and she keeps pushing him. His plucking should have been a clear indication (at least, I'd think so, I'm not a bird expert) that he was feeling stressed. I wonder if he ever got a vacation?
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Poor guy. I do understand that Dr. Pepperberg probably loved Alex, but in watching this, and some other videos, he ... so, I'm not a bird expert) that he was feeling stressed. I wonder if he ever got a vacation? jmc

Sure. They let him go back to Africa regularly for visits. Flew him first class.
If Alex didn't like the life he had he had ... into Irene P.'s hand and refusing to play her games.

He bonded to Dr.Pepperberg, he loved her, and propably could not hurt her even if he wanted to. She no ... big tray towards his leg in order to elicit a response from him. No wonder he died pre-maturely.
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that's appalling. He actually asks to go back but she refuses.

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that's appalling. He actually asks to go back but she refuses.

We bird owners know how stubborn these little creatures can be, but still.
This video doesn't look good.
M.J.
Poor guy. I do understand that Dr. Pepperberg probably loved Alex, but in watching this, and some other videos, he ... think so, I'm not a bird expert) that he was feeling stressed. I wonder if he ever got a vacation?

No kidding about the feathers! I almost got sick to my stomach seeing that. I had an African Gray Parrot when I was young - found him what I can only hope was a good home when I got married at age 23... He plucked some of his own feathers when he first met my boyfriend and got stressed about that - he also once ran to him and climbed up his face and tried to bite off his nose (pretty smart parrot, I now know - I should have taken that for a sign!) But that was just a couple feathers and he stopped after he moved. Alex looked terrible. It was so sad how he kept saying "go back, go back" and she just said no. Man.
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that's appalling. He actually asks to go back but she refuses.

We bird owners know how stubborn these little creatures can be, but still. This video doesn't look good.

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We bird owners know how stubborn these little creatures can be, but still. This video doesn't look good.

If a bird took the trouble to ask me to do something in English, I'd do it!

He might have really hated all the exercises and just resigned to the "torture" after a while. Who knows!

I could ignore a request or two, but not continuous pleas to go back. The short movie captures at least six such, it looks like there were many more.
M.J.
No kidding about the feathers! I almost got sick to my stomach seeing that. I had an African Gray Parrot ... terrible. It was so sad how he kept saying "go back, go back" and she just said no. Man. cindi

Well, in other videos, Alex looked wonderful. I had a cockatiel, JB, for 18 years. There were times during a particularly vigorous molt that he too looked just awful! If you saw him, you'd want to call the ASPCA! So, don't think that one video with the poor feathers is an indication that he was mistreated. Just another opinion. JJ
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