My wife and I are planning to get a schnoodle puppy in a few weeks. She will be 8 weeks old then. We would like to crate train.

I am concerned about crating while we are at work. We live relatively close to home, and we have worked out a schedule where one of us can make it home every three hours to let her out and play with her for a little while. I'm just concerned that's too long and she will soil her crate. Of course, I expect a few accidents, but I don't want to override her den instinct by, in effect, forcing her to go in the crate.
We have a fenced in back yard. Would we do better to let her stay out there with our other dog during the day and work on crating only when we are at home?
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My wife and I are planning to get a schnoodle puppy in a few weeks. She will be 8 weeks old then. We would like to crate train.

Why not a nice POODLE instead of paying someone to produce a mixed breed? Oh well, I wish you the best with your new puppy. Sorry, the whole "poo" and "doodle" trend just makes no sense to me.
I am concerned about crating while we are at work. We live relatively close to home, and we have worked ... accidents, but I don't want to override her den instinct by, in effect, forcing her to go in the crate.

3 hours seems reasonable. Small breeds/mixes have teeny bladders.Don't leave water in the crate, feed well before you leave in order to get elimination before crating, and consider smaller meals (ideally, 4 meals until 3 months, then 3 untl 6 months, then 2 forever) for the daytime, with a larger portion for dinner when you'll be home for an extended period of time.
We have a fenced in back yard. Would we do better to let her stay out there with our other dog during the day and work on crating only when we are at home?

Your other dog is outside all day? How secure and safe is your yard? No, I wouldn't leave a very young puppy out all day (then again, I wouldn't leave any dog out all day). As far as crating when you're home, crating is great for overnight when you can't supervise the puppy, but the puppy should be out and about with you otherwise, learning house rules.

Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
Why not a nice POODLE instead of paying someone to produce a mixed breed? Oh well, I wish you the best with your new puppy. Sorry, the whole "poo" and "doodle" trend just makes no sense to me.

Actually, I would have preferred an adult mixed breed from a shelter. The schnoodle is my wife's idea.
Your other dog is outside all day? How secure and safe is your yard? No, I wouldn't leave a very ... when you can't supervise the puppy, but the puppy should be out and about with you otherwise, learning house rules.

Yes, we have a golden retriever who stays in the yard while we are at work and is inside while we are at home. As far as the safety and security of the yard, the golden has never gotten out (of course, she's not a digger, either). I've discovered that we are apparently "barbarians" for doing that. (Not saying that about you, Janet). Apparently, the same people who would call us that also would criticize us for keeping a dog inside all day while at work. I guess if you work during the day, you're not supposed to own a dog.
Yes, we have a golden retriever who stays in the yard while we are at work and is inside while ... the safety and security of the yard, the golden has never gotten out (of course, she's not a digger, either).

Keep in mind that getting out is not necessarily the only danger. Other things (animals, people) getting IN, poisonings, theft - all real dangers unfortunately. Especially with a really trusting breed like a Golden.
I've discovered that we are apparently "barbarians" for doing that. (Not saying that about you, Janet).

No - you're trying to do what you think is the best thing for your dog. It may be. It may not be. The dog that belongs to the family behind me is left out all day. She has an enclosed porch she can go into, a dog house as well. She stands and howls mournfully a lot of times though, when she's not charging the fence at my dogs (that has ceased thanks to a new anti-bark device thank goodness!). If we get a thunderstorm, she leaps over the fence and races around frantically looking for a safe haven. The same fence that she never challenges any other time. I worry about the dog a fair amount, and other times, her howling is pretty annoying.
I feel that my dogs are safest by staying in my house when I'm not home. My schedule varies a great deal and they are pretty flexible and able to stay in for long periods with no problem. Petsitters or owners able to come home midday are usually a better solution than leaving the dog out.
Apparently, the same people who would call us that also would criticize us for keeping a dog inside all day while at work. I guess if you work during the day, you're not supposed to own a dog.

There's no such thing as a perfect world! You're right - criticism about leaving a dog all day is common. There are a lot of us who see owners who are gone to work 12 hours a day, who crate their dog or don't give thought to midday breaks. Some dogs handle that ok, many don't. When problems happen, it's the "dog's fault". It's hard to have it all - dogs and careers. By paying attention to a dog's needs, I think people can have jobs and dogs successfully. But ya gotta have a plan, and at least for your impedning puppy, you seem to.

Best of luck with the new little one - work on your wife though, eh? ;-D

Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
Your other dog is outside all day? How secure and ... be out and about with you otherwise, learning house rules.

Yes, we have a golden retriever who stays in the yard while we are at work and is inside while ... all day while at work. I guess if you work during the day, you're not supposed to own a dog.[/nq]It is harder when you work all day, but it's doable. You have to also realize that people will have opinions, and some of them very strong opinions, about dogs. If you work all day, you can still own a dog, but if you can't handle opinions being thrown at you from every direction, you probably can't. Emotion: smile Another part of the problem is that some dogs can be outside better than other dogs. The fact that you have two dogs can go both ways as well. Your pup won't be as lonely and bored as if it were out alone, but it might get hurt out there with your golden whereas you don't have to worry about fights or rough play if your dog is alone.

The whole issue about what can get into your yard with your dogs while you are not there to intervene is another one to think about. I have had dogs who preferred to be outside and dogs who didn't want to be outside much more than to pee unless I was right out there with them. In general, I wouldn't want to have a very young dog outside all day, though, and would opt for the crate.

Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
While you are at it, you might as well have a child and leave it at home while you are at work...in a crate. No one can justify to me that it is ok to lock a dog up all day long in a box to entertain you for a few hours at night just to be boxed up again before you go to bed. And for what, so they don't twinkle on your expenseve persian rug you yuppes.
I am sorry, in life you have to make choices. Career or kids. Pet or kids. The decision to have a pet should warrant the exact same thought process and commitment as having kids less the college fund. Pets are living creatures. Do you think they want to spend 75+% of their life in a jail for doing nothing wrong. You want to be entertained when you get home, get a big screen TV and a remote like the rest of us.

I would not have had kids if my wife was not going to be home at least until they started school. The same goes for our dogs. I would not have had dogs if there was not going to be anyone home to take care of them a majority of the time.
Lets see any of you yuppes sit in a little box for what 8, 10, sometimes 12 hours if you have to stay a little late. It would drive you crazy. So why do it to your dogs. And don't give me this dogs are den creatures. I don't remenber any dens in the wild with locks on them. Lets see if you can hold your pee for 8, 10, 12 hours. Or lets see you pee on command.
No, I guess you are not as inteligent as your living posessions.
this sure appears to be an angry channel. you guys should get a dog or something
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