Not for how long during a workday, but how long for a dog's lifespan?

Curious how many choose to crate a dog forever, whenever they leave the house and/or overnight, or how many choose to wean from household crate usage (usage being shutting the dog in the crate, not the dog choosing to hang out there) at some specific ages or maturity levels.

Janet Boss
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Curious how many choose to crate a dog forever, whenever they leave the house and/or overnight, or how many choose ... the dog in the crate, not the dog choosing to hang out there) at some specific ages or maturity levels.

I stop closing the doors on crates during meals when the dog starts understanding that this is his/her place to eat and runs in there at mealtime (i.e., soon). With crating at night, I stop closing the doors at night when the dog has gone about a week without a housetraining accident during the day.

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Not for how long during a workday, but how long for a dog's lifespan?

I plan on crating Tuck whenever NOT supervised (which isn't often.. he usually is with me) Until the day that he quits tearing apart everything in sight when I leave the room. A dog proof room doesn't work. He's figured out door knobs. He's figured out cupboards, and he loves to tug open dresser drawers. He's not interested in anything left out in the open. He's into treasure hunting, figuring anything worth secreting away is worth his effort discovering. He's discovered the sock stash is in drawers.

Trash cans? not interested.
Counter tops? not interested
Counter tops -with food? not interested
Dog food sitting on the floorin open bags? not interested razor blades from bathroom drawers? ... Very cool stuff! Mom really gets bent too!
nope.. His crate is going to be occupied for some time to come. As for the beagle.. She's never been trustworthy. She's getting senile and never will be trustworthy, so a crate is in her future until she crosses the bridge.
Reka, no crate at no time, She lost her crate when she was 5 months old. Both Tuck, and reka hangout in crates by choice. Reka dens in the bathtub usually. (kind of a crate) But she likes the beagles vantage point, because the beagles crate is on top of Tuck's. Right next to the window so she can see out. Tuck prefers the compartment with a view as well. I always have to vacate him (even though the crate on top is too small for both elkhounds, it's their preferred lookout) when I wantto stick in the beagle. Reka sleeps under the bed at night or in the bathtub at night if it's really hot. She sleeps in the bathtub by day when not watching from the penthouse suite.
Tuck is not crated at night, and has chosen to sleep in the closet. The beagle holds down the couch, night and day.
Not for how long during a workday, but how long for a dog's lifespan? Curious how many choose to crate ... the dog in the crate, not the dog choosing to hang out there) at some specific ages or maturity levels.

For me, it has depended on the dog's personality as well as reliability. Right now, we aren't using any crates on a regular basis. With dogs I have had in the past, I wondered if it was going to be a lifelong thing, but the worst in reliability was also the one who most loved her crate, so that wasn't an issue. It was easier to just kennel her at night with the same routine and ritual she loved and both live happily ever after. Why push it when crating always meant extra safety even for more reliable dogs and this particular dog was happy being crated? Other dogs have never been crated, having come to me reliable from rescue and not liking crates much.

Paula
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Not for how long during a workday, but how long for a dog's lifespan?

I'm amazed at the number of people who crate their dogs at night for life and don't even consider that it may not be necessary.
For example, I was looking after a friend's dog the other weekend and had no special instructions. The owners were amazed that I'd had no problems with him being free at night. When questioned, they had no specific reason to crate their dog.
Curious how many choose to crate a dog forever, whenever they leave the house and/or overnight, or how many choose ... the dog in the crate, not the dog choosing to hang out there) at some specific ages or maturity levels.

I crate Rocky, even though he's 8.5 years old, but only when I'm gone during summertime days - maybe an hour at the most. (Other than hot days, my dogs are always with me.)

While Friday has been totally reliable unsupervised from the day I got him from a rescue, Rocky has not. Rocky will go looking for food even in areas where there's no possibility of food.
The good thing is that he likes his crate, runs for it when I ask, and gets food when he's in it.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
Not for how long during a workday, but how long for a dog's lifespan? Curious how many choose to crate ... the dog in the crate, not the dog choosing to hang out there) at some specific ages or maturity levels.

I crate as long as it's necessary. With Elliott, that was never. With Harriet, who had SA, she was crated until she was 3yo (I'd have to Google to be more specific). While she was crated, it was only during he day, when I was not home to supervise her. At night, she's always slept on my bed instead of in a crate.
About the only reasons I can think of to crate adult dogs long-term is for SA or because of potential dog aggression.

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While Friday has been totally reliable unsupervised from the day I got him from a rescue, Rocky has not. Rocky will go looking for food even in areas where there's no possibility of food.

Ah. Another good reason to crate adult dogs. Thanks for mentioning that, as it hadn't occurred to me.
Harriet (very) occasionally gets into the trash, but it's been an awfully long time since she's done that, and I've become pretty well trained to put it up, that it's not a problem anymore. Now, if I could train the cat to leave Kleenexes in the trash, everything would be peachy.
The good thing is that he likes his crate, runs for it when I ask, and gets food when he's in it.

Harriet has always been "meh" about her crate. She gets into it willingly when told, and has never seemed to mind being crated, but she's not been what I'd call enthusiastic about it. She gets fed at least half her meals in it, gets treats there, and now that she's the only dog, that's where her toys and chewies get tossed when I clean up. She's lately decided that her crate is a pretty nice place. I regularly find her sprawled out in it, napping away. Beats me why she suddenly loves her crate, but she does.

Shelly (Warning: see label for details)
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Not for how long during a workday, but how long for a dog's lifespan? Curious how many choose to crate ... the dog in the crate, not the dog choosing to hang out there) at some specific ages or maturity levels.

Bella (5) was crated during the day for periods of time when the two old dogs were still living because she pestered them and they didn't like it. We used to have a crate in the office for that purpose, so she could be with everybody but not annoy the old dogs. After Tracy died, we got rid of the office crate (2 years ago).
She's never really spent too many nights in the crate because we found housetraining went more easily for us when she slept on the bed with us.

We still use the crate if we're going to be gone more than a couple of hours because Bella doesn't feel particularly confident if she's left in the house alone. She has shredded stuff on occasion and recently had a UTI . Being in the crate managed both of those problems.

We've changed her crate to one of those fabric pop-up crates. We took that on vacation with us and crated her at night because she was shedding so much that we'd never get the house clean enough for the rest of the family. She knew this crate was different, and when we went to dinner & crated her, she walked that crate around the house end to end like a giant hamster ball. (she only did that once)

We're actively working on the confidence issues and we have to work on the eating of the kleenex issues.
Not for how long during a workday, but how long for a dog's lifespan?

We crated Gordo and Chile as pups only until they were housetrained.

Dylan was in a crate or pen for more than a year, less than 2. She enjoyed ripping things up. Carpet, shoes, window screens, boxes... She seemed to like her crate, and after we took it down she resorted to cubbying out under our desks.
Oppie - less than a year.
We did have occasional episodes of counter surfing, when we forgot to put food away. We always blamed Oppie, the canine bottomless pit. After Dylan died, the episodes ceased. Completely. Poor Oppie! At least when the incidents happened, we had enough sense to smack ourselves, not Oppie, over the head with a rolled up newspaper.
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