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3. Or keep him inside his crate.

I'm hoping to avoid this. He's been more obedient and mellow since we let him out of the crate. But if it comes down to it... What do you think about the home-all-day-and-OK aspect of it? Or trying to catch him in the act?[/nq]Here's the problem. You have a hard time getting up that early to take him out. How are you going to get up and stay up and alert with him enough to catch him in the act? You don't have to go back to crating him every time. He's reliable during the day, but not at night. You just need to crate him at night. If you also take away the water in the evening, you may be able to teach him to hold it better at night because he will sleep through until 6:30.

Most dogs are creatures of habit. If wake up and go pee time is at 5:00, they wake up and go pee at 5:00, whether you are up to let them out or not. For whatever reason, this seems to be your dog's habit. If he wakes up at 5:00 but can't pee and has to go back to sleep, and you get him up at 6:30 to pee, he will, over time adopt that as his new habit. What is happening now is that every single morning, you are reinforcing the old habit and then wondering why he doesn't change.

Why should he? It isn't problem to him and you haven't been able to correct him in the moment to let him know absolutely that it is a problem to you. So you can get up at 5:00 to take him out or to try to catch him in the act, or you can crate him overnight and let him develop a new waking and peeing habit while you sleep. Taking the water away for the late evening just helps him to be able to do that instead of being so desperate to pee that he can't make it no matter how much he wants to.
As for what it means that he can make it all day, it could be that he sees the rules for daytime differently. It could also be that he drinks more at night than he does in the morning. It could be that this is the last habit to break in finalizing his house training just because something has to be last. Who knows? Does it matter more to figure out what your dog is thinking or to reshape his thinking so that you can both be comfortable and happy all night and through to the morning?

Paula
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I have never lied about you. And if I make a factual error abou someone, I
retract. You don't
Tar
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