Our dahchsund is a 18-month male who has made incredible progress since we got him.
Still, he urinates in the house maybe twice a week, about 5 AM (pretty reliably) before we get up at 6:30. We're getting forced into the habit of taking him outside at 5, then getting back in bed (this is annoying as you can imagine). Yet somehow, he's OK in the house all day and will never make an accident in 9 hours.
Why would he pee when we're home? Can't he wait 90 minutes for us to get up? Is this a function of being hungry?
OPTIONS

1) Keep taking him outside at 5-ish. This sucks, as breaking up deepsleep is murder on my constitution.
1) Crate him. (Would rather not do this, I like him having the run ofthe house. He doesn't destroy a thing otherwise.)
2) Catch him in the act, and voice disapproval. This seemed to work forharassing the cat and pooping.
BACKGROUND
He is not crated. He used to be, but he does so well, that we can trust him while away.
While we are home, we take him out at least four times a day. I jog him usually once a day, and he has at least one, sometimes two 15-20 minute walks besides that.
His first family didn't keep an eating schedule and had two very young children and another dog. He would defecate and urinate frequently in the house, whether others were home or not. In fact, during our adoption visit, he pooped in an adjacent room. He wasn't on a feeding schedule: a bowl was left out 24/7. They ignored his SUBTLE signs to go out. Since we got him, he's made drastic improvement with a schedule.
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1) Crate him. (Would rather not do this, I like him having the run of the house. He doesn't destroy a thing otherwise.)

Since he's supposed to be SLEEPING, what does it hurt? I think it's the best way to break the cycle.
Of course, at bedtime, go out with him to make sure he pees before bed.

Janet Boss
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Still, he urinates in the house maybe twice a week, about 5 AM (pretty reliably) before we get up at 6:30.

What does that tell you?
We're getting forced into the habit of taking him outside at 5, then getting back in bed (this is annoying as you can imagine).

Which is more annoying to you. Taking him out at 5:00? Or having a dog that's not reliably housebroken?
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OPTIONS 1) Keep taking him outside at 5-ish. This sucks, as breaking up deep sleep is murder on my constitution.

What time do you put him to bed? How late do you allow him access to water?
1) Crate him. (Would rather not do this, I like him having the run of the house. He doesn't destroy a thing otherwise.)

Which do you like more. His not having the run of the house? Or his urinating in the house?
BACKGROUND He is not crated. He used to be, but he does so well, that we can trust him while away.

If he's doing so well, why are you here?
While we are home, we take him out at least four times a day. I jog him usually once a day, and he has at least one, sometimes two 15-20 minute walks besides that.

Good! But you're not quite there yet.
His first family didn't keep an eating schedule and had two very young children and another dog. He would defecate ... 24/7. They ignored his SUBTLE signs to go out. Since we got him, he's made drastic improvement with a schedule.

Now that you're almost over the hump (dachshunds are notoriously difficult to housebreak!), why not finish the job?
1. Either get up earlier and take him out.
2. Or put him to bed later, after taking him out.
3. Or keep him inside his crate.

But if you ever hope to make him reliably housebroken, you just can't allow him to make anymore mistakes.
Thanks for giving him a second chance!
You're almost there.
Don't stop short.

Handsome Jack Morrison
Which is more annoying to you. Taking him out at 5:00? Or having a dog that's not reliably housebroken?

I see your point.
1) Keep taking him outside at 5-ish. This sucks, as breaking up deep sleep is murder on my constitution.

What time do you put him to bed? How late do you allow him access to water?

He goes to bed at 10:30, with us. I never thought of taking water away... you think maybe 7 PM or such is too early to take it away? I'm afraid I wouldn't remember to replace it, but that's not a bad idea.
1) Crate him. (Would rather not do this, I like him having the run of the house. He doesn't destroy a thing otherwise.)

Which do you like more. His not having the run of the house? Or his urinating in the house?

These questions presuppose the situation can't change. I have more hope than to make that choice. If the little guy can hold it during the day, with water freely available, then why not at night?
BACKGROUND He is not crated. He used to be, but he does so well, that we can trust him while away.

If he's doing so well, why are you here?

Um...
While we are home, we take him out at least ... at least one, sometimes two 15-20 minute walks besides that.

Good! But you're not quite there yet.

Yup, I am trying to increase it. The more he's worked, the happier he is.
His first family didn't keep an eating schedule and had ... we got him, he's made drastic improvement with a schedule.

Now that you're almost over the hump (dachshunds are notoriously difficult to housebreak!), why not finish the job? 1. Either get up earlier and take him out.

Try waking up 90 minutes before your usual start. Every day. You might feel differently. Not trying to get huffy, just saying that's an awful big change. If he can adapt otherwise, he can adapt to this. I'm not here for his pleasure. He gets plenty of fun on our runs, camping, canoeing, road trips, dog parks. I don't baby him or humanize him. He's cute, but he ain't paying the mortgage.
2. Or put him to bed later, after taking him out.

We take him out right before our bedtime.
3. Or keep him inside his crate.

I'm hoping to avoid this. He's been more obedient and mellow since we let him out of the crate. But if it comes down to it...

What do you think about the home-all-day-and-OK aspect of it? Or trying to catch him in the act?
No. That's a very good time for it.
If you ever want a reliably housebroken dachshund, that is.
I'm afraid I wouldn't remember to replace it, but that's not a bad idea.

Do you remember that old Fram Oil Filter commercial?

"You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."
Which do you like more. His not having the run of the house? Or his urinating in the house?

These questions presuppose the situation can't change. I have more hope than to make that choice. If the little guy can hold it during the day, with water freely available, then why not at night?

The situation CAN'T change, unless you do something to change it.

If you don't, the situation is likely to get worse.

"You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."
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Now that you're almost over the hump (dachshunds are notoriously ... job? 1. Either get up earlier and take him out.

Try waking up 90 minutes before your usual start.

"You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."
I'm not here for his pleasure.

Actually, you are. The sooner you figure that out, the fewer problems you'll have.
You adopted him; he didn't adopt you.
Dogs (and children) come with responsibilities. Either you're willing to accept them, or you're not.
If you're not, you shouldn't have them.
2. Or put him to bed later, after taking him out.

We take him out right before our bedtime.

If you take away his water at 7:00, and then take him outside (afterwards) a couple times before you go to bed, you might get to sleep later.
I'm hoping to avoid this. He's been more obedient and mellow since we let him out of the crate. But if it comes down to it...

"You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."
What do you think about the home-all-day-and-OK aspect of it? Or trying to catch him in the act?

"You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."
It's entirely up to you, my friend.

Handsome Jack Morrison
"bryanska" (Email Removed) said in

(Prepend the regular advice of making sure that the dog doesn't have a urinary tract infection or something similar.)
Still, he urinates in the house maybe twice a week, about 5 AM (pretty reliably) before we get up at 6:30.

You're not crating him - that's fine, unless it's making you anxious which may make your dog anxious. Where is he peeing? Is he peeing on something (ie: marking)? Or is he obviously peeing to empty a full bladder?
We're getting forced into the habit of taking him outside at 5, then getting back in bed (this is annoying as you can imagine).

I thought that that'd be difficult, too - I used to be such a light sleeper that I couldn't get back to sleep after being awoken. After getting a puppy 8 years ago, I'm still a light sleeper, but now have no problem getting back to sleep after taking my dog out at 2am in -30deg horizontal snow.

You're responsible for your dog, please accommodate him. You've been doing a great job so far.
Yet somehow, he's OK in the house all day and will never make an accident in 9 hours.

One difference is that's you're home at night. Maybe, because of his previous home, he finds this somehow disconcerting. Or, maybe he just needs to pee at night. Or maybe he's not yet comfortable in a big dark house (try keeping him your bedroom). Either way, I'd take him out at the last second before bedtime and watch and praise when he goes. Plus, I'd take him out first thing in the morning (even before I got the coffee going).

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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