A simple question for everyone, how long should the various size rodents be derosted for, before using?
I know it seems a basic question but if I leave it too long, could there be a problem with bacteria and if it isn't thawed enough what are health implications of my snakes eating a still partially frozen food item.
tia
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if it isn't thawed enough what are health implications of my snakes eating a still partially frozen food item.

Necrotic internal tissue; potentially death.
Lots of variables: how big, how frozen, your defrosting technique, air circulation, etc.
Myself, I put a ziploc bag full of frozen rodents in the fridge in the morning and they are ready by evening, around 12+ hours.

Squeeze the lungs and brain of your thawed rodents to see if they're defrosted. These are the last areas to defrost. If you feel undue hardness or very cold emanating from the head area, not thawed enough.

fr0glet

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A simple question for everyone, how long should the various size rodents be derosted for, before using?

Adult mice can be defrosted in a bath of hot tap water in a minute or two. Pinkies defrost even quicker. Adult rats take maybe 10 to 15 minutes. If you are impatient, you can completely immerse the rat in water and put it in the microwave for a minute or two. For your own mental well being, do not mircowave rodents without immersing them in water - nasty!
Luke

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A simple question for everyone, how long should the various size rodents be derosted for, before using?

You know, if this wasnt a herp news group some of these topics might sound pretty strange :-P
You know, if this wasnt a herp news group some of these topics might soundpretty strange :-P <<[/nq]
Oddly enough, I saw the very same question over on alt.rats.recipes
Adult mice can be defrosted in a bath of hot tap water in a minute or two. Pinkies defrost even quicker. Adult rats take maybe 10 to 15

I've had problems with exploding rodents (ok, maybe not so much exploding as rupturing) when I've tried this. Does this not happen to your rodents Luke?
Defrosting meat in hot water is also frowned upon by the USDA. They recommend defrosting in the fridge or in cold water.

I'll bet a quick google would find their recommendations.

-Z
Adult mice can be defrosted in a bath of hot ... defrost even quicker. Adult rats take maybe 10 to 15

I've had problems with exploding rodents (ok, maybe not so much exploding as rupturing) when I've tried this. Does this not happen to your rodents Luke?

Only when the water was hot enough to actually cook the rodents. The hot water that comes out of my taps is still cool enough to leave the meat raw. This is a problem sometimes when microwaving rodents in water, though.
Defrosting meat in hot water is also frowned upon by the USDA. They recommend defrosting in the fridge or in cold water.

These seem to be aimed at large chunks of meat that would take an hour or more to thaw. This will give enough time for harmful bacteria to reach problematic levels. 15 minutes of thawing takes no more time than normal meat preparation for meals before the cooking process. If you are the type to leave the rodent in the enclosure with the reptile in hopes that it will get hungry and eat it later, this seemes more dangerous in that it would allow more time for bacteria to grow.

Of course, I do not worry overly much about this when feeding my monitors, given that they are adapted to eat carrion that has been slowly simering in its own juices for a couple of days in the hot tropical sun, but I try to make sure my snakes get fresher foods.

Luke

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Oddly enough, I saw the very same question over on alt.rats.recipes

ROFL!! X-D
fr0glet

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A simple question for everyone, how long should the various size rodents be derosted for, before using? I know it ... if it isn't thawed enough what are health implications of my snakes eating a still partially frozen food item. tia

I put the the rat in a bag and leave it in a bowl of room temp water. they seem to thaw quicker. then i warm them a little with a blow dryer. and it's make their fur more manageable.
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