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I found that dogs do form actual friendships with other dogs.

Yup. There are dogs Khan waits for at the dogpark. His entire demeanor changes once his playbuddies get there.
I have also found that most dogs recognize their own breed and have a different sortof relationship right from the start than with other dogs.

True enough. Pan gets all silly and coy with other Danes. She's a total dork, and with the possible exception of other Danes and Khan, very few dogs really get her. I'm fairly certain that Khan doesn't see himself as a GSD. He doesn't care for Shepherds, one way or the other. In all the time we've been going to the dog park, I don't think he's ever played with or even shown interest in one, and his play style is quite different from that of most GSDs I've known. Huskies and Malamutes (and mixes thereof) are much more likely to get that 'Hey, don't I know you?' response out of him, although with Mals, the recognition is not for the good. He is quite wary and cautious around them, and more prone to displays right off the bat.

Suja
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I found that dogs do form actual friendships with other dogs.

For sure. Friday has a great time with the daycare dogs who are regulars here. His favourites are those that have been coming for a year. Bingo, the Mudi, is his mostest favourite because they're both active dogs. Timmie, the CKCS, he also likes a lot, though he shows it in a different way - Friday puts up with a lot of stuff from Timmie that he won't from other dogs.

And then there're the dreaded nekked and !bouncy! dogs.
I have also found that most dogs recognize their own breed and have a different sort of relationship right from the start than with other dogs.

If Nekked Dog was a breed, I've a sample size of three here, bounding around somewhere, that would agree with you. Two RRs and a Vizsla are having a wonderful time with each other, to the consternation of the longer-haired dogs who would like a post- walk nap.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
Bodhi remembers his "friends" he's made when he was younger. There are a couple of friends of mine that have intact males of similar age to Bodhi, they still seem to remmber each other & romp & play when they come in contact.

Not just individual dogs, but breeds. Sam's two best buds were a Terv and a Berner, therefore all Tervs and Berners were greeted like long-lost treasures. He also got threatened by a black Dane, which put him off big black dogs. I think that's why he and Duke had some issues at first.

I do believe that most dogs don't generalize well, but Sam seemed to be an exception to that rule.
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Not just individual dogs, but breeds. Sam's two best buds were a Terv and a Berner, therefore all Tervs and Berners were greeted like long-lost treasures.

Hmm. I mentioned above that Friday doesn't immediately warm up to nekkid dogs, yet he loves all Rottweilers, presumably because one of his earliest friends is a Rottie.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
I found that dogs do form actual friendships with other dogs.

Yup. There are dogs Khan waits for at the dogpark. His entire demeanor changes once his playbuddies get there.

Where ever we lived, Dino loved visiting dog parks and always made buddies. One of his favorites when we lived in Denver was an Airedale named Dugan. Dino & Dugan were both 7 years old and when they saw each other, their faces would split into sly grins and they would amble over to each other for some bitey face & trash talk. They were like two ole buddies- swapping stories and telling lies.
I have also found that most dogs recognize their own breed and have a different sort

of

relationship right from the start than with other dogs.

True, I've noticed that all my smoothies immediately recognize and are attracted to other collies (both rough and smooth). They are just so gosh darn pleased about it "OH! You're a collie!" "Yes I am! And you're a collie too!"
I don't ever recall any of my collies having a strong bias against any one breed of dog. Pablo, however, who hates being bumped or pushed around, is wary of big, overly active, juvenile male dogs. If a big goofy overgrown pup bounces up to him, he'll show them all his teeth. Once he's darn sure they understand the rules (Rule #1: Don't touch the Suit), he'll often offer small overtures of play. Lucy OTOH is extremely maternal towards puppies and is over indulgent with them. She met an itty bitty 8 week old beagle pup last week and immediatly started to mutter over him and giving him licks here and there.
Chris and her smoothies,
Pablo and Lucy
I found that dogs do form actual friendships with other dogs.

Absolutely! All three of my dogs have particular dogs that they really like at the park and at agility trials. In Morag and Rocsi's case, they both have "boyfriends" as well as friends; there are some male dogs (usually, but not always, intact ones) with which the behaviour on both sides is distinctly flirtatious.
And in the case of "friends", they absolutely recognize each other even when they haven't seen each other for months.
They also each have particular enemies, or dogs that they really dislike; generally Rude Dogs, but in Rocsi's case there is one little Basenji *** at the park who just plain dislikes her for no apparent reason. Fortunately, she has a responsible and sensible owner, and we both make an effort to avoid conflict between them.
I have also found that most dogs recognize their own breed and have a different sort of relationship right from the start than with other >dogs.

Yep. Rocsi and most other JRTs we meet clearly recognize each other. However, she also reacts in a very similar way to several other breeds, especially Pugs, Bostons, Aussies, Leonbergers, and Border Collies. She especially loves Pugs.
Brenin has a reverse response to several breeds, although he's gotten better about it in recent years; he tends to be extremely suspicious of Labs, Boxers, Pit Bulls, and Standard Poodles, although once he's gotten to know individuals who are nice, he'll usually relax.
They also each have particular enemies, or dogs that they really dislike; generally Rude Dogs, but in Rocsi's case there is one little Basenji *** at the park who just plain dislikes her for no apparent reason.

Have you ever met a dog that was instantly disliked by multiple unrelated dogs? I used to see a small mixed breed in the off leash who was disliked by a bunch of the other dogs. 'Tite Loup was not a rude dog - still, she attracted a lot of negative attention from dogs who were not normally bullies.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
Have you ever met a dog that was instantly disliked by multiple unrelated dogs?

I own one (Saber). He's blind and wasn't all that well socialized to begin with, and other dogs really don't like him. Appropriate to this thread, however, Emmett loves him and even after 4 years together Emmett seeks him out from among the other dogs.

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'Tite Loup was not a rude dog - still, she attracted a lot of negative attention from dogs who were not normally bullies.

My guess?
They probably found out that 'Tite Loup was a Bush supporter.

Did the bullies look anything like these whackjobs?

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