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I wouldn't say that 4 years is really old. I'd take a mature trained dog any day over a puppy..Emotion: smile I'd just take the furball home and be done with it. If he's a good as you say he'll win her over.

Celeste
I feel deflated.

I just found out some disturbing news about the potential health of this dog... I have to get a little more information before I move forward.

I just spent the last hour washing and setting up the crate after digging it out of the back of the basement.
I feel deflated.

Lynne
I feel deflated.

I just found out some disturbing news about the potential health of this dog... I have to get a little more information before I move forward.

What's the news?
I just spent the last hour washing and setting up the crate after digging it out of the back of the basement.

I feel deflated.

I'm so sorry this is dampening the joy. I hope its something that can be worked with.
Tara
Now I have to work on my daughter, but I don't feel compelled to meet any other dogs. I feel deflated. I may lay down the "it's this dog or no dog (for now)" ultimatim.

They all die too soon, and there are no guarantees that your four year old won't last longer than a puppy you might otherwise get. There's too much variation in life spans to generalize too much. If you love the dog, go for it. Your daughter will fall in love and won't be able to imagine having any other dog.
By the way, I took in an 11 year old dalmatian who needed a new home. Dals are not notoriously long-lived breeds. But she lasted years before we had to say goodbye and I never regretted taking her in. Four years old is not old. It's just past the stage where they have obnoxious puppy behaviors or adolescent brattiness!

Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
Also, Matt will tell you that four is the perfect age.

I'm not Matt, but I far prefer my four year old to my one year old by a long shot!

Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
If she's 11, you've got a bunch of years for her to find reasons! UGH!

She's already very adept at this. Fortunately, I don't take much personally. I do keep telling her she'll never be too old for me to change my stance on spanking, though. ;-)

I have an 11 year old daughter. My favorite way to deal with "the snotties," as I call them, is to remind her that it won't be long before she wants something from me. A ride, permission to go to a friend's or have a friend over, something she likes for dinner instead of something I love and she's not wild about... I remind her that when that time comes, I will remember how she treated me when deciding how I will treat her. That usually nips it right in the bud.

Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
They all die too soon, and there are no guarantees that your four year old won't last longer than a puppy you might otherwise get.

Yup. The puppy I got at 3 months of age was gone 3 weeks past her 5th birthday; the dog I got nearly full grown is going on 12..
Also, Matt will tell you that four is the perfect age.

I'm not Matt, but I far prefer my four year old to my one year old by a long shot!

Both of mine are five. That seems to be a pretty good age. And they should have another 8 to 10 years to go. It's not enough but it'll have to do.

Judy
What's the news?

I was advised by another rescue group to check the health of this dog, so I have asked if I can take him to my vet to have him checked out before I commit to adopting him. I am still waiting to hear back...

In other news, my dog and both cats are fascinated with the crate I set up and have all three been sleeping in it!

Lynne
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