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Sounds like you need to chill.

And where's the fun in that?
Life is way to short to get like that for little of nothing.

Life's all about entertainment Gwen, MINE!
Suja
That's something that I don't have to worry about. Neither ... Thank goodness for scaredy cats (or should it be dogs?).

that's the thing, though. neither of my dogs usually reacts protectively, but i'd hate to count on that. elliott has, ... who knows what will possess little miss scaredy pants if she feels threatened and cornered? i'd rather not find out!

Yep. And take a nervous cop, or even one just adrenalized, and add loose barking dog, and you can get trouble.
Another real advantage to crating in the car you can take the dog a lot more places, and can open the car completely to ventilate it without the dog leaving. Since I travel a lot to shows and don't leave my dogs sitting in hotel rooms alone, this comes in real handy. We go to dinner, dogs are safe and happy in the car. As long as the sun has gone over for the evening, opening things up leaves it plenty cool enough even on a hot day.
I keep a Vari-kennel 500 and 400 strapped to a deck made of laminated MDF, raised about six inches off the floor of the van (third-row seats out). Rubbermaid rolling trays slide under the deck. One contains bumpers, the other miscellaneous Dog Bits.

Now that's a dog car.
When the Dog to be Named Later arrives on the scene, though, I may buy a wire kennel for the ... the household is too busy to Watch Him Like a Hawk. At night, he gets a towel over the top.

Orson like his wire crate (in the house). We put a towel over the top and sides when the household is particularly stressful, like when there are 10 houseguests (yes, 10), or when he needs a timeout in the crate from construction noise or from visiting children.
A propos the rest of this thread: Storm was crate trained for housebreaking and car transportation reasons. The crate makes ... leave it wide open when training or at a trial. She gets plenty of breeze and is still safely confined.

Great use for a crate in a car.
Cate
A propos the rest of this thread: Storm was crate trained for housebreaking and car transportation reasons. The crate makes ... leave it wide open when training or at a trial. She gets plenty of breeze and is still safely confined.

There is yet another reason I like crates. Those that train do seem to use the above practice quite a bit. I know I have in the past.

Gwen
Sounds like you need to chill. Life is way to ... nothing. Maybe you need a drinkie or two or three?

thank god i have you to tell me how i should respond to things. it's everso helpful. no, really.

No problem, I know you have done it to me more often then I can count on both hands and feet.
HTH.
Gwen
Yes Gwen,
some of us like seeing shelly go unhinged over nothing.

this is michael
reporting live...
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My seats are always folded down and I have a rubber mat covering the cargo area.

Where'd you find a rubber mat so big? I've been looking for something to cover the dog holding area. I have a down comforter down, but it just covers the entire area, and moves around too much, so I end up having to shampoo the carpet and the back of the seats ever so often. Of course, this doesn't begin to address all the muck and dog hair that ends up slipping between all the cracks and crevices.
Sure, my car smells like dog, but it's the dog car!

That's how I see it. We have one "good" car for driving people in, and one dogmobile.
Suja
I guess it is ok to crate/cage a dog short time ie NO longer than two hours. However some people do it for hours on end.

I'll see your two hours and raise you five, with a 45-minute training/exercise session in the middle. Storm (2.5yo) is loose in the house most days, but comes into town with me twice a week and sleeps in the car (crated) while I'm working, with a break for lunch. She doesn't seem to be the least bit traumatized.
If a dog cannot move about they do NOT get any exercise.

And your dog gets tons of exercise sleeping on the sofa?
A crate/cage is ok if after the dog reaches a year or so then the door is left open. That way they have the best of both worlds.

Why, thank you for your permission. Doorless crates aren't very helpful for confining a dog in situations where s/he is in a strange place, a car, or likely to do damage, though, are they?
Training a dog works wonders to..so why not train them.

What a clever idea! Maybe I'll start.
I guess if a dog is shut in a cage for hours on end it will not learn good behaviour.

How about you bring your dog out to the field and meet me with my untrained, cruelly abused, under-exercised retriever and see whether any of your arguments hold any water whatsoever. I don't want to over-work the poor thing, so we'll keep it down to a 175-yard land triple series and 100-yard water doubles, eh? The weather's cool, so we can finish up by polishing skills on a 15-bumper Double-T on the local football pitch...

Kate
and Storm JH WCX CGN
My seats are always folded down and I have a rubber mat covering the cargo area.

That's great.
Sure, my car smells like dog, but it's the dog car!

So does mine. As well as smokes.
A coworker once got in and said 'Uh, I hate to tell you this, but your car smells like wet dog.' I shrugged and said 'That's probably because I have three wet dogs in here every day.' Cate

I sure don't care much about that either. My car is definitely for the dogs.
And it has nothing but dog stuff in it. That and numerous folding chairs.
Gwen
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