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I suspect overuse of crates is a relatively small part of the problem; underuse probably leads to a lot more dead dogs.

Ohmigosh, yes. I can't count how many times I've been told, "My dog is uncontrollable. He pees everywhere and chews everything. I have to get rid of him." And if I try to encourage the use of a crate, it's "Oh, no, that's too cruel."
Sigh.
That said, I have an ex-sister-in-law whose dogs lived their entire lives in crates other than potty breaks. Potty breaks amounted to open the door, let them outside. Many of them ran off, got run over, one died of a snake bite.

And then she'd complain that they weren't housebroken.

A crate alone is not the answer. A crate used appropriately with training is the answer.
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My dog ate the linoleum off the kitchen floor. What sort of reorganization would prevent that?

Italian tile tile. Granite tile.
Other then that pulling up all the linoleum and leaving it as is.

It is oneof the reasons I hate linoleum it buckles, it comes up on the edges when there is the least amount of moisture or humidity.
Gwen
My dog ate the linoleum off the kitchen floor. What sort of reorganization would prevent that?

Italian tile tile. Granite tile.

Too heavy. Instead of chewed-up linoleum, I'd come home to the dog AND the kitchen floor crunched on top of the furnace. No, thanks.
Other then that pulling up all the linoleum and leaving it as is.

Sub-floor is *so* attractive. Easier by far to "reorganize" the dog into a crate, yes?
Sub-floor is *so* attractive.

ain't it? i'm not terribly house proud, but i think draw the line at plywood floors. at the very least, i'd have to paint a floor mural on 'em. besides, even if you dog-proof the floors, you've still got walls, woodwork, doors, etc.
Easier by far to "reorganize" the dog into a crate, yes?

i would think so.

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Mine tore through the door frame molding and shredded the patio door curtains (she was confined to the kitchen). It took a bit to acclimate her to her crate, but saved us some of our security deposit and caused her less stress in the long run.

FWIW, she no longer is crated when we leave (hasn't been for years) although she sleeps in her crate at night (chases the poor cat otherwise) and is crated in the car and at agility trials. I'll sometimes find her curled up in her crate snoozing during the day (there or on my daughter's bed).

Mary
Italian tile tile. Granite tile.

Too heavy. Instead of chewed-up linoleum, I'd come home to the dog AND the kitchen floor crunched on top of the furnace. No, thanks.

I live on pier and beams and have had no problem with having tile. I was really just a kidding, more then real suggestion.
Other then that pulling up all the linoleum and leaving it as is.

Sub-floor is *so* attractive. Easier by far to "reorganize" the dog into a crate, yes?

I prefer subfloor any day over linoleum of any sort. Different strokes for different
folks. Sounds like you are happy with your linoleum. That's fine. I guess you replaced the
chewed stuff? I am certainly considering pulling up the nasty carpet in my bedroom and painting
the subfloor until we had the money for the laminate wood flooring stuff. I hate
both carpet and linoleum.
To me both or so non lasting and temporary and completely un-animal friendly.
If Cate can find rubber mat for her entire vehicle, I am wondering if I could find
some black or gray rubber matt for my bedroom.
Gwen
...Sounds like you are happy with your linoleum. That's fine. I guess you replaced the chewed stuff?

Nope. Duct-taped the edges to the subfloor, crated the dog, then sold the house to the city for flood control and let 'em knock it down before I got around to replacing the chewed-up bits.
Now I've got lino squares in the kitchen/bath and hardwood everywhere else.
If Cate can find rubber mat for her entire vehicle, I am wondering if I could find some black or gray rubber matt for my bedroom.

That would make housecleaning *so* much easier!! The solid-type stall mats I've seen might work (about $2.50-3.50/sq ft), but you do have to piece 'em together for bigger areas.
...Sounds like you are happy with your linoleum. That's fine. I guess you replaced the chewed stuff?

Nope. Duct-taped the edges to the subfloor, crated the dog, then sold the house to the city for flood control ... I got around to replacing the chewed-up bits. Now I've got lino squares in the kitchen/bath and hardwood everywhere else.

I like the squares much better then the roll kind. I always forget about them.
The roll kind around here always comes up around the edges.
If Cate can find rubber mat for her entire vehicle, ... find some black or gray rubber matt for my bedroom.

That would make housecleaning *so* much easier!! The solid-type stall mats I've seen might work (about $2.50-3.50/sq ft), but you do have to piece 'em together for bigger areas.

Indeed I did a search. It looks like some grand stuff I tell you. I may just really consider it.
Very dog and human friendly for joints and stuff. And then there is the less sliding for
Blade which he really doesn't need. I found several links with large rolls of this. My bedroom
isn't that large so I would think it would just be two pieces put together.

Have you seen the rubber mulch stuff for playgrounds? I didn't even know anything like
that existed. I sure wish our Agility field had looked into that instead of using real mulch.
And it is already getting all kinds of weeds and grass growing into it. And they did lay
down heavy vinyl before putting a very thick layer of mulch.

I am planning on seeing how much this rubber matt stuff would cost to do my bedroom.
And it does come in colors, like blue and several others. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Gwen
That would make housecleaning *so* much easier!! The solid-type stall mats I've seen might work (about $2.50-3.50/sq ft), but you do have to piece 'em together for bigger areas.

Here is one link:
http://www.megafitness.com/megatuff-flooring.html
http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=rubber+flooring+for+large+areas&page=1&offset=0... url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26requestId%3D93e949f0cac367a4%26clickedItemRank%3D5%26userQuery%3Drubber%2Bflooring%2Bfor%2Blarge%2Bareas%26clickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcartwheelfactory.com%252Frubber flooring%252Frubber flooring.html%26invocationType%3D-%26fromPage%3DNSCPIndex2%26amp%3BampTest%3D1&remove url=http%3A%2F%2Fcartwheelfactory.com%2Frubber flooring%2Frubber flooring.html

Here is the mulch stuff:
http://www.rubbermulch.com/playground.htm
I can't find the one I found about horse stalls. Either way I want simple clean
and durable and something that doesn't hold dander and wet dog smell. Not that it bothers me that much.
Gwen
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