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I am wondering if I could find some black or gray rubber matt for my bedroom.

Ahem. I'm not into black rubber, but I'm open to discussion.

LOL! Hey I found it in colors too. How do you feel about rubber in colors?
Gwen
Ahem. I'm not into black rubber, but I'm open to discussion.

Grey's more your color? Suja

Looks like you beat me to the bunch, Suja. But honestly there are many colors or should I say several.
Gwen
train Sorry, doesn't fly. That "training" scenario only works if ... who, if never crated, never acquire any bad habits either.

Name three. :} Seriously, what new untrained, unhousebroken puppies do you know who would not pee on the floor and chew things if they were given the run of the house when alone? It is as close to a guarantee that you're going to get.

You didn't talk about puppies. You said dogs. The implication was that all dogs can be trained NOT to indulge in bad behaviors by being crated. There are lots of adult dogs brought into new homes who never have a problem. And there are even some puppies who are good from day one.
They loll.

Heh.
Nice flashlight! Quadruple D or 9V dry cell? You'd better answer correctly.

I had to go look. It's a 6-volt. That's funny, because 9-volts are so much smaller, but this is the big honkin' kind that kids run their science fair volcanos with. I also carry a can of WD40 in that cargo pocket, plus a kong on a rope, a frisbee, and his tennis-ball-material- covered donut. I should put his lighted collar in there. There's nothing like trying to spot a blind black dog at night.
Orson, btw, takes a nice picture,

Doesn't he though?
but what's
that hanging out of his mouth?

It's his collar tag. The angle somehow makes him look like trout on a hook, or like Penguin from Batman.
That drawer set contains some good stuff! Just don't ask me what it is! Actually, most of it is stuff ... shoes and jackets. I'm anal, but once you've judged for a whole day in pouring rain or glaring sun ...)

I'd carry all that too if I went to trials. In fact, I'm sure my Rubbermaid drawer set would be of similar size.
Cate
Okay, this is the third time I've explained this. It's the last time, so everybody listen up, k? :} It ... tool instead of an active training tool. But I stand by the statement that a crate *is* a training tool.

I disagree. There is nothing remotely "training" about it in this instance. Its a management tool and not a training tool.

I also don't subscribe to the theory that it prevents bad habits from forming. It prolongs them for as long as it (crate) is used but doesn't necessarily prevent them. Many dogs who eventually get free of the crate will indulge in some bad habits. Therefore the owner only prolonged the inevitable, or "managed" the dog & situation in the meantime.
If you go by the logic that crating is a training tool because the dog isn't given the opportunity to be destructive then you'd have to apply it across the board. By not walking your dog you're using a training method because you're effectively preventing him from pulling (no walk = no leash = no pull).

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I'd love to see a picture of that.

Two days later (isn't analogue technology grand!), here it is:

That looks like the same size crate we use for our two in our van. Bonnie is a 33 pound BC mix and Molly is a 45 pound lab mix. They actually seem quite comfortable in it. Molly usually stakes out her laying down spot before Bonnie gets a chance, so she gets the prime location.
Mary
Two days later (isn't analogue technology grand!), here it is:

only two (2) days?! your analog technology works lots better than mine.
a large wire crate (depth is 42") containing 2 (two) medium-sized canines (1),

that looks like elliott's crate. both of mine fit pretty nicely in it. harriet can lie across one end and elliott sprawls all over the rest of the space.
a Rubbermaid drawer set (holds leashes, harnesses, longe lines, bowls, etc.). It all crams very well together.

i love those drawer sets! they stack nicely all the way to the ceiling and because the drawers are clear, i don't lose my arting junk.

shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
I had to go look. It's a 6-volt. That's funny, because 9-volts are so much smaller, but this is the big honkin' kind that kids run their science fair volcanos with.

that's what i use for the MPoD's "dome light." (the former owner's kids removed the dome and the windshield wiper controller thingy. i can still use my wipers, but it's an, um, interesting experience. it does cut down on friends asking me if they can use my car, so i guess it's not a completely bad thing.)

shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
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