I must be a masochist for continuing to read this ng, but this post will hopefully be on a happier note, and not spawn anything more than friendly arguments and opinions. I was going to post this question a while ago, before things "blew up".
Anyway, I have noticed that, quite often, when my dog is in a deep sleep (as he is now, and as I should be soon), he will make whimpering and whining noises that I never hear him make when he is awake. Also sometimes he will shake or twitch, and his feet will move as if he is running. I know this is nothing new, but I wonder if his dreams are about things that may have happened in his early life, when he was most probably abused or neglected, or might it be more recent events. Usually when I put my hand on him and talk softly, he will wag his tail and roll over and look at me.

That's all. Looking forward to some happy thoughts and insights.

Paul
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I must be a masochist for continuing to read this ng, but this post will hopefully be on a happier ... his tail and roll over and look at me. That's all. Looking forward to some happy thoughts and insights. Paul

Hi Paul,
My little Nikki dreams almost every night. Sometimes it's muffled little "woofs", sometimes it's little wimpers or whines, sometimes she kicks her legs like she's running, and sometimes it's a combination of all of the above. At times it's really cute and I have to chuckle. There are other times where she worries me a little so I gently wake her up much the same as you do and quietly pet her and reassure her that she ok and I'm right here. She normally licks her lips a few times, yawns, gives me a kissy, and goes back to sleep content.
I like to think that they are all good dreams but it's really impossible to say. She hasn't had a hard life like Muttley has so I can't imagine her having bad memories but I'm propably anthropomorphising. Who really knows how they inturpret their experiences in their subconscious.
One of Nikki's favorite activities is visiting all the different people in my building and doing her tricks for them. Everyone cheers and claps and she is just on top of the world. She also likes to just sit outside and watch traffic and people go by. So when she is dreaming, I "choose" to think she is dreaming about these things but in reality I have no idea what she is dreaming about.
How are you doing by the way? I've been thinking of you a lot the last few days and hoping that you are coping with everything ok. I'm not going to get into everything again, I'm just very sorry for the way it all played out here and I offer my appologies if I personally have said anything that might have upset you. My offer still stands, if you should have the need to talk to someone, you have my e-mail. I would be more than happy to help in any way I can. Please give Muttley a big hug from Nikki and I.

Les Hilliard & Nikki the Super Shih-Tzu
I must be a masochist for continuing to read this ... post this question a while ago, before things "blew up".

You're not a masochist, you're a dog lover!!! Emotion: smileAnd yes, my dogs all make noises when 'dreaming', Rudy is like a roof roof roof, that can get louder as he goes along, but it's so cute. Then Boo, (aka Ceilidh), 9 yo lab gal, makes these really adorable rooos in her sleep and awake, that cute little labby mouth all pulled together to make an "O". Zack? He's the 'special boy', abused horridly, before we adopted him, at 2, he's also 9 now.

He goes around sounding like 'Mr. Magoo', he started it early on, well more like an old man groaning, one nite. Scared the bejeebees outta us at first, then we cracked up. LOL Now he not only does 'Mr. Magoo' while sleeping but during the waking hours too, along with a 'chuff chuff', he's got a deep chest and he's got a really low voice, really funny.

I only wake them if they sound frightened. It IS nice to talk about the good times, eh? Emotion: smile
Peace,
MaryBeth and Rudy and the crew..
Anyway, I have noticed that, quite often, when my dog is in a deep sleep (as he is now, and ... put my hand on him and talk softly, he will wag his tail and roll over and look at me.

That's perfectly normal. Dogs dream, and they often move and make noises when they do so (I don't think there's any connection to past abuse; I don't think dogs process experiences in the same way we do). Sometimes Harriet's dreams get a little too loud and rambunctious for me, so I give her a little nudge or place my hand on her. It doesn't wake her up (she's a deep sleeper), but it usually quiets her, for awhile, at least.

Shelly (Warning: see label for details)
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I actually looked up this very question it does seem that dogs enter REM sleep just like we do ergo they do dream.
It would be a neat thing to be able to actually know what they are dreaming about chasing cats getting chased by a cat? Big dogs? Little nippy dogs?
"Paul E. Schoen" (Email Removed) said in
Anyway, I have noticed that, quite often, when my dog is in a deep sleep (as he is now, and ... he is awake. Also sometimes he will shake or twitch, and his feet will move as if he is running.

All of my dog have done this. Rocky's, though, scare the bejeezus out of me. Dream twitches & paddles and epileptic seizure symptoms are similar, though the latter are more severe. Even 4 years (!!) after his last seizure, Rocky's dreams wake me up in a panic.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
Anyway, I have noticed that, quite often, when my dog ... and his feet will move as if he is running.

All of my dog have done this. Rocky's, though, scare the bejeezus out of me. Dream twitches & paddles and ... latter are more severe. Even 4 years (!!) after his last seizure, Rocky's dreams wake me up in a panic.

Congrats to you and Rocky on four seizure-free years. Is he still on AEDs? Blue's 4 1/2 years without a seizure, and on no meds. Though his current spine problems will probably be worse than seizures, but at least he doesn't have both. As to dreaming, I have a dog with a documented history of abuse and neglect (she and 20+ other dogs were the subject of a court case), dogs that I know were not abused, and dogs in between, including dogs rescued from the streets. They all dream, and I've not noticed any difference between their dream behaviors.
Mustang Sally
I must be a masochist for continuing to read this ng, but this post will hopefully be on a happier ... his tail and roll over and look at me. That's all. Looking forward to some happy thoughts and insights. Paul==

My dog does that almost every night.
Her legs move as though she is running, and she makes little noises.
but I wonder if his dreams are about things that may

have happened in his early life, when he was most probably abused or neglected, or might it be more recent events.

While I give dogs a lot of credit in the brain department, I'm not convinced that their dreams are more complicated than "hey - a squirrel! Must chase the squirrel". Depending on dog or breed, that may also be duck, bird, rat, whatever. Some of my dogs have been much more frequent dreamers than others. I don't know that I've ever found any connection with any other aspects of their personality, but so far, I haven't found any dream diaries around! ;-D

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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