For most of us, the most economical way of buying dry dog food is in 50 (23 kg) pound bags. Unfortunately, many people, including many older people, can't lift such a weight. The Wal-Mart employees will help a customer to get the bag in to the vehicle, but then the person still has to get the dog food itself from the bag to the bowl, and dog food needs to be stored too.
Assuming the person is able enough to slide a 50 pound bag around a bit and can unload their own car to a cart or something.

Assuming zero outside human help.
What would be the best handling system to enable this person to use 50 pound (23 kg) bags of dog food to feet their dog? I'm interested in both procedural systems of how a simple weak person can maneuver a heavy bag and its contents. And I'm interested in mechanical, maybe even automated, systems that carry a bag, open it, store the contents, and portion out some of the contents at intervals.
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What would be the best handling system to enable this person to use 50 pound (23 kg) bags of dog ... automated, systems that carry a bag, open it, store the contents, and portion out some of the contents at intervals.

I got myself a granny-lady shopping cart for just such purposes. It won't do any good to google for "shopping cart" because of course every commercial site has a virtual shopping cart and hits for them will drown out the sites that really sell carts. Try two-wheel cart or four-wheel cart (your choice) or sometimes these are called laundry carts. I get Pedigree with the new zipper that works really well, keeps critters out, etc. It's probably not Katrina proof, but the bag will shed the occasional drip or coffee spill. I keep an empty one in reserve in case the new bag gets damaged in transport.
My general strategy for nonfragile, moveable but not liftable stuff, is a large stout towel, used only for this purpose. Drop the thing on the towel, pull the towel. Of course terrain could make this impractical, but it works pretty well on paved areas, even with gaps like flagstones and small steps.
If you don't get the Pedigree, perhaps a smallish wheeled garbage bin would do it. I tried garbage bins for dog food storage, but was not entirely happy with the goodness of the seal, which did not seem to give the critters much problem. Nonetheless, lots of people use them for this purpose. I'm not sure you could find a wheeled one of an appropriate size, but it might be worth looking into. It would be much easier to slide the bag into the cart/bin if you had them put the bag on a seat in the vehicle or if you have a vehicle with a tailgate.

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For most of us, the most economical way of buying dry dog food is in 50 (23 kg) pound bags. ... handling system to enable this person to use 50 pound (23 kg) bags of dog food to feet their dog?

Subdivide the big bag bag into Ziploc freezer bags (or similar) directly from the car. Put the bags in a stationary container in the house or freeze them if you have room. That reduces the likelyhood of bugs too.

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When my back is bothering me and I can not lift anything I simply open the bag in the trunk and scoop out a couple jugs of food at a time and take it in then dump it into the tucker tub. It means multiple trips to get it all but at least I'm not doubled over in pain when I'm done.

Celeste
Hello Nehmo,
We have two full size dogs and use fully enclosed plastic containers that can hold about 15-20 pounds each. If you can't lift them out of the car and you have a station wagon or SUV it's simple: Get a stool that lifts the containers high enough to be flush with the bumper. Get another to sit on. Then tear open and refill into the containers. IIRC they were about $4 a pop at Walmart and they have handles.

We use them because they make for a very neat storage arrangement in a cabinet.
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For most of us, the most economical way of buying dry dog food is in 50 (23 kg) pound bags. ... automated, systems that carry a bag, open it, store the contents, and portion out some of the contents at intervals.

Pull it off the cart, stand it up (on the floor) in the closet, slice the top open with a box cutter and use an injection-molded plastic scoop that holds one portion for the dog's meal. Add water or milk into the scoop, dump in the dog's dish, return the scoop to the bag. No sweat, and no fancy technology required. At worst, a cart that would help tilt the bag up to vertical.
Where are you getting 50lb bags? The IAMS stuff comes in max 20kg (44lb) bags AFAIK. A really feeble person probably shouldn't have a large (and thus expensive to feed) dog anyway, they won't likely be able to give the animal the exercise it needs to stay healthy.
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Hello Spehro,
Where are you getting 50lb bags? The IAMS stuff comes in max 20kg (44lb) bags AFAIK. A really feeble person ... to feed) dog anyway, they won't likely be able to give the animal the exercise it needs to stay healthy.

That depends on the dog. If you get a retired guide dog they are often so well behaved that they never pull and never fly off the handle even if they encounter a cat. But of course you still have to be able to walk many miles. I remember one of them who walked herself every day. Nothing could distract her, she would patiently wait at the crosswalk until there was no traffic because she was trained to do that for blind folks. Then she'd veer onto the farm road and ran until the end and back. She let me pet her but only after this daily training regimen.

Once when I walked our older Rottie mix he began trailing me when I started to run. So I stopped and he had that look on his face "Now do we have to do this?".
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back up the car to matel garbage can, start scooping or pouring.
For most of us, the most economical way of buying dry dog food is in 50 (23 kg) pound bags. ... automated, systems that carry a bag, open it, store the contents, and portion out some of the contents at intervals.

When I'm faced with something too big or too bulky for me to handle I see if I can break it down into smaller loads. Fortunately this is extra easy with kibble. Inside the house - trash can or other container with tight fitting lid. Tools - box of closeable plastic bags, and something to open the kibble bag. Prop the kibble bag up in the vehicle. Open it. Fill bags with kibble and secure the top. Carry in as many as one comfortably can. Drop bags into container.

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