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WARNING: this post may be offensive to some, especially to cat owners. If you are easily offended just skip this one.
Cats will kill small animals for no purpose, especially songbirds.

But you can keep them from doing that by cutting off their tails if you do it right. How do you cut of a cat's tail so it won't harm songbirds? You cut just behind the ears.
Seriously, not only cats but snakes and dogs will all kill rather indiscriminatly anything they can catch be it a songbird, beneficial animal or something like a mouse. They are natural predators after all.
Snakes in PDX are most probable not poisonous.

Not just probably, unless it is an escaped pet or some other snake brought in from out of the area it is definitely not venomous. There are no venomous snakes native to the part of Oregon west of the Cascades. Eastern Oregon is a different matter of course, they do live there.
Overall, cats are the greater offenders, on several other dimensions as well.

Cats help control the vermin and other pests. Why just the other day, mine brought home a snake she found in the yard.

Snakes in PDX are most probable not poisonous. They probably eat small mice and insects.
Snakes in PDX are most probable not poisonous.

Not just probably, unless it is an escaped pet or some other snake brought in from out of the area ... the part of Oregon west of the Cascades. Eastern Oregon is a different matter of course, they do live there.

Not so.

I've heard first hand tales of them being found in radar domes in the Coast Range.
yeah but carrying a scoop of poop through the house doesn't sound very sanitary.

Clue: What are trash cans for?

Clue: Flushing is better, as then the poo does not leach to the water table.
Clue2: Read the thread.
Bull ***. Cats are merely killers of other life. They ... Currently there are no cats killing birds in my yard/garden.

Confucius say he who no like cats was in previous life a rat.

Pretty much where all Serial Killers start. Maybe we got our very own Dahmer.
Depends on the circumstances and the culture.
Snakes in PDX are most probable not poisonous.

Not just probably, unless it is an escaped pet or some other snake brought in from out of the area ... the part of Oregon west of the Cascades. Eastern Oregon is a different matter of course, they do live there.

That's the conventional lore, and while it's largely true as a rule of thumb, it's not strictly true. Rattlers can be found on Skinner's Butte in Eugene, on Spencer's Butte south of there, and in the Kalmiopsis Wilderness in southwestern Oregon. Probably at some other places in western Oregon as well. Some of the terrain outside of Grants Pass, Medford, and Ashland just looks a lot like rattlesnake country to me.

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Not just probably, unless it is an escaped pet or ... is a different matter of course, they do live there.

I've heard first hand tales of them being found in radar domes in the Coast Range.

Interesting. I once did a lot of research on rattlers etc. for a long article I got roped into writing for rec.backcountry. (Still appears there as an FAQ though it does need updating) The info I found then said there were none in western OR though that was well before 1998.

It does, however, still appear that there are none in pdx as far as I can tell.
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