hi
here's the back ground. in july i got a kitten from a house with at least30 other cats. she was fairly thin when we got her but she put on weightand was healthy. then i took her to get fixed and was informed that she had an infection in her mouth and they put her on clavamox 2 times daily for 10 days and tested for viral infections which came back negative. on saturday i brought her back to the vet for a check up and the vet said she had really bad gingiviti so i asked what could be done for that and they ran blood tests on the kedneys, liver.

well today i phoned the vet and they said she had some complex thing, i'm not sure the name but the white blood cell count was high and that something else was high it think it started with an eth or something like that, i may be wrong anyway what they think she has is normally seen in cat's skin not there mouth's. they said when they spay here they would want to do a biopsy on her mouth, i think send a sample to a patholigist and then grow the bacteria or do a swab or something i wasn't really sure since i was starting to cry.

i know this is fairly vague but i was wondering if anyone could tell me what it might be called, i'd call the vet again but i'm crying to much since my parent think i should put her down since it's going to cost another 400 to fix her and then treatment. i refuse to put her down though since i have a job, and sure i will only be able to do a bit at a time i can still treat her. i had to put a cat down 3 years ago because i couldn't afford treatment and i will NOT do that again.

she's the best cat ever and i wouldn't even had known she was sick if it weren't for the blood tests.
also i was wondering if it is really that bad if she goes into one heat? i mean she is probably ready to go at anytime now but i don't get paid for another 2 weeks and that's when i can afford to have all the other stuff done.
so if anyone can give info that would be great, if not then i'll phone the vet tomorrow and research, research, research.i posted on the vet fourm and someone suggested it may be eosinophilic granuloma complex and i think that's what she has. So i was wondering if anyone had a cat with it and if so what tests did you run to see if they acctually had it if any. i would like to do the tests but my parents don't want me to spend 1000 on tests, hey they don't want me to spend 400 on tests. they acctually had the nerve to phone the vet tonight to see what exactly she has and what the prognosis is and all of that, even though i have stated that i am not putting her down.

and they have stated that they don't want me spending much money on her if she's sick, my mom didn't even really want me to do the blood work. i mean she's acting normal and she's so young, you wouldn't even know anything was wrong with a her. in fact the vet didn't really suggest blood tests until i asked if there was something that we could do to make sure she was ok for the spay.
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Are there any low-cost spay/neuter programs in your area? Here's a list of some resources: http://www.savesamoa.org/html/spay neuter.html#USCan

You ask: Is going into heat that bad? Yes, it is. Your cat will be miserable, you will miserable listening to your cat yowl and carry on. She may escape and a) never come back or b) come back with a litter of kittens. It would be ideal if you could get the spaying and biopsy all taken care of at once, but if your parents are being so hard on you about this, and the mouth issue is not extremely time sensitive, I would get the spaying done ASAP.
Also, talk to the vet's office and explain the situation with your parents, and find out if they will take a payment plan. Are you over 18? Maybe you could get a credit card with a low credit limit (like $500 or so) and just use it for the kitty's vet bill and pay it off.
Congratulations on being a responsible pet owner. I guess you learned it on your own, and not from your parents.

-Kelly
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circa Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:02:57 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Lauralai (Email Removed) said,
i posted on the vet fourm and someone suggested it may be eosinophilic granuloma complex and i think that's what ... until i asked if there was something that we could do to make sure she was ok for the spay.

Unless you're under the age of eighteen, what you do with your money is up to you. On the day Alex's lymphoma diagnosis came in, I called my father and told him that I had decided to at least look into chemo. He started to protest (Alex had cost many, many thousands of dollars in testing and whatnot by then), and I said, "I'd rather have the old cat than the new car." (I'd been contemplating purchasing a rather expensive car before that.) My dad hushed up and never said a word about it again. It's your money, and it's your cat, and you took the responsibility of caring for your cat when you got her, so there is no reason for you to have to defend your actions.

With that said, I don't have any experience with eosinophilic granuloma complex, although I was reading bits about it earlier today when I was looking into causes of low lymphocytes in cats. I'll try to remember to note and post the links tomorrow (I'm at a different computer now).
Laura

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Your ass will be laminated.
Here's more info, here:
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body eosinophilic granuloma.html

My cat often gets the pink lower lip in about the 4th photo on that page. Diagnosed by the vet visually, pretty classic, looked just like the photo in his book. Soemtimes you will see sores on the backs of the legs. We were told it was probably an allergic reaction (possibly flea allergy), and was also associated with stress. We've successfully kept it under control (for 1 year) by supplementing his diet with 500mg of the amino acid L-Lysine daily. L-Lysine is used to prevent eruption or shorten appearance of oral herpes (cold sores). I'm not sure why it works. It's also interesting to note that Herpe outbreaks are more likely to occur when an individual is particularly stressed.
hi here's the back ground

Get the cat spayed ASAP.
Eosinophilic granuloma complex is easily treatable. The vet will only have to look at the lesions to diagnose them. It usually occurrs during an allergic reaction - to fleas, to plastics (such as water bowls), to cleaning supplies or insecticides, or food, so finding out what may be triggering it is key to controlling it. It is a life-long condition. It is treated with prednisone, usually.

Good luck,
-L.
Hi Kevin,
I'm glad to hear the lysine works for your cat. I'm just curious, do you empty the capsule into his food to give it to him? He doesn't mind the taste?

Lauren

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Lauralai,
My cat was diagnoses with this a bit over a month ago when I took her in for her regular depo medrol shot for her asthma. I had noticed tiny bumps on the back of her legs, and she had two very small "pimple" like things on her nose, under her fur.
The vet said many cats with allergies have this syndrome (eosinophilic granuloma Complex) and that it is not in the least life threatening.

Here is what to expect if your cat's experience is like my cat's three days after the shot of depo medrol the tiny bumps on her nose totally disappeared and the ones on the back of her legs shrank down to almost nothing. I take her in for the shots about four times a year and they cost about $30 each time.
If the sores in your kittie's mouth are far along, I understand that the vet may have to give her some antibiotics just to speed healing. And, the vet has to make sure the mouth lesions are not pre-cancerous.

But once you have her on regular Depo Medrol shots the lesions should not appear. You will have to be careful to make sure she doesn't get fat, and that you take her for the shots as seldom as possible, because long-term use of steroids like Depo Medrol have side effects that include Diabetes. (Fat cats, like fat people, are prone to get Diabetes, so if she is getting the shots AND is fat she would be of double risk.)
Remember that your baby is very lucky to have you to care for her, and that she will be just fine! But had she remained a stray she would have had infected sores and all sorts of problems.
Hi ,
My cat gets eosinophilic granuloma sometimes on her bottom lip.(pout trout) She allergic to fleas and also flea treatment. It doesnt happen very often and clears up after a Duph Q injection . If it happened more often or didn't clear up the vet would do a biopsy.

Alison
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hi here's the back ground

Get the cat spayed ASAP. Eosinophilic granuloma complex is easily treatable. The vet will only have to look at the ... it is key to controlling it. It is a life-long condition. It is treated with prednisone, usually. Good luck, -L.

I second this. Spaying is important, and I'm not sure why the EGC should prevent that, although of course, your vet should be the final authority on this. I have a cat with EGC, and the info above is what I also understand (actually, I just learned from this post about some of the possible allergens). From what I understand, it is an autoimmune disease, and is generally easily treatable, although treatment may need repeated. My guy's cleared up after a couple of cortisone shots, but is back, so he will need to go back in again to get the shots.
Question: can treating it with prednisone tablets every so often prevent it? Just curious on that one.
Ginger-lyn
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