hey all,
this summer/fall i'm going to be moving into a new place and finally will be able to get a snake. i have a 7 year old female iguana who i love but i've wanted a snake since i was as old as she is now.

so far i've pretty much concluded that i either want a Russian Rat snake, a Mexican Black Milk snake, or a Rosy boa. that should give you an idea about my price and size ranges. i'd love a mandarin rat snake but i'd also like to you know, be able to afford the rest of my college education Emotion: wink
rosy boas aren't quite as pretty as i'd like my snake to be, but they are so highly recommended based on temperament that they made it to the finals.
whatever i choose it'll either come from a breeder at lee watson's swap in illinois, or a reputable internet dealer.
SO- if anybody has anything to say about these sps., any species that they just love and EVERYONE should keep, or any general snake advice, it would be immensely appreciated.
thanks alot,
phil
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so far i've pretty much concluded that i either want a Russian Rat snake, a Mexican Black Milk snake, or ... rat snake but i'd also like to you know, be able to afford the rest of my college education Emotion: wink

Do you mean a Mexican black kingsnake? I've never heard of a black milk snake, but maybe I'm missing something.
rosy boas aren't quite as pretty as i'd like my snake to be, but they are so highly recommended based on temperament that they made it to the finals.

Kingsnakes are wonderfully docile. If you like the look of a black kingsnake more than the rosy, I'd suggest getting the king. Unless it really is a black milk that you want. In that case, ignore me.

Luke

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Do you mean a Mexican black kingsnake? I've never heard of a black milk snake, but maybe I'm missing something.

good question, i've seen it called both things. you would know better than i. but i do mean the one that has, what's it called, ontogenetic color variation? like it has vastly different coloration as a juvenile, and becomes solid black as an adult. as for most kingsnakes i've seen, the ones i can afford are not unique enough for me (like a california k, or a common king snake).
Do you mean a Mexican black kingsnake? I've never heard of a black milk snake, but maybe I'm missing something.

good question, i've seen it called both things. you would know better than i. but i do mean the one ... the ones i can afford are not unique enough for me (like a california k, or a common king snake).

Sounds like a Mexican black kingsnake to me. As adults, they are pure black. If
that's what you like, this may be the snake for you.

Luke

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good question, i've seen it called both things. you would ... me (like a california k, or a common king snake).

Sounds like a Mexican black kingsnake to me. As adults, they are pure black. If that's what you like, this may be the snake for you. Luke

I say go for a mexican rosy boa. That was my first snake, and I'm still in love with the little girl ! I learned a lot by keeping her and now have 4 other snakes as well. Snow corn, cali king, sinaloan milk, and a tx ratsnake.
-Ryan
so far i've pretty much concluded that i either want a Russian Rat snake, a Mexican Black Milk snake, or ... rat snake but i'd also like to you know, be able to afford the rest of my college education Emotion: wink

I have no experience with Russian Rats or Black Milks (Did you mean Black Milk or Mexican Black King? They are two different snakes), but I have rosy boas. Rosies actually come in more color varieties than you see out there. San Gabriels are bright orange and tan, Some coastals are blue and rust colored, and mexicans are chocolate brown with yellow. There's more than that, you just gotta look!
Rosies are very easy to take care of. For instance, all my babies to yearlings are kept in shoeboxes with 2" substrate and a small water dish. The adults are kept in sterilites. Main thing to remember with them is to keep them dry!! Don't let moisture sit for too long, it can cause RI.

-cat
I had a Russian rat that was so sweet. Trouble was he got to big for me to keep so I had to sell him to a fellow member of NEHS. I spoke with him recently and he said the snake is doing great.
Had a rosy boa many years ago, it died suddenly, I have no idea why. Of course this was before I really knew what I was doing.
I have two Mexican black KINGsnakes. They are tough hardy snakes and I have had them for years.
Kurt Kunze
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Do you mean a Mexican black kingsnake? I've never heard of a black milk snake, but maybe I'm missing something.

There is a black milksnake, Lampropeltis triangulum gaigae. I dont think it comes from Mexico though. I think what was meant was the Mexican black kingsnake, Lampropeltis getula nigrita. Black milksnakes are expensive last time I checked, where the Mexican black king is affordable.
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good question, i've seen it called both things. you would know better than i. but i do mean the one that has, what's it called, ontogenetic color variation? like it has vastly different coloration as a juvenile, and becomes solid black as an adult.

Black milksnakes, Lampropeltis triangulum gaigae, start out like many other milksnakes. They are tricolors when they hatch, as they mature they darken to black.
Mexican black kingsnakes, Lampropeltis getula nigrita start out that way and stays that way.
Kurt Kunze
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New England Herpetological Society - member
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