Hi,
I currently have 4 dogs. I live in Central Fl. I have used Advantage and of late Advantix for flea contol.
I recently changed to Frontline as a one time thing thinking maybe the dogs have built up a resistance to the Advantix product. One of the young dogs has claimed a dog house in the yard. My old Lab likes to lay out all night (in the dirt) if it it cool. However he is not the one infested.
My Lady girl who seldom leaves the house is infested. She has long hair. Jack the one that has claimed the dog house has them badly. They are all scratching and I see fleas or flea dirt on all of them. Oddly enough at the first sign of fleas I get bitten not so this time around? It is not like the house is infested. I haven't seen any on anything but the dogs.
I guess I am asking if anyone can recommend something to use in the dog house and the surrounding area, I have basicly sand in the back yard, I don't like using poison? in the yard but do not know what else to do.
I admit to stretching their topical med for more than a month sometimes but not of late since I have had the problem. I even used flea dip before applying their meds. (which I know you are not supposed to do).
Does anyone have any ideas and any outside products that would be safe to us but not the fleas. Any ideas would be very appreciated by Lady, Buck, Jubal Early, Jack, and ME..
Thanks,
Be Free..Judy
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Hi, I currently have 4 dogs. I live in Central Fl. I have used Advantage and of late Advantix for ... not the fleas. Any ideas would be very appreciated by Lady, Buck, Jubal Early, Jack, and ME.. Thanks, Be Free..Judy

Have you tried dust baths of diatomaceous earth?
Hi, I currently have 4 dogs. I live in Central Fl. I have used Advantage and of late Advantix for ... us but not the fleas. Any ideas would be very appreciated by Lady, Buck, Jubal Early, Jack, and ME.. Thanks,

Fleas are breeding on the ground in your yard. They are in my yard, too. I ran out of time to apply our granules this weekend :-(.

I don't know how safe you will think this is, if you are anti-chemical. I use yard granules to control fleas. They'll drive the fire ants out, too. This year, I got Triazicide, by Spectracide. I don't recall it being horribly expensive. It claims to be once a year, guaranteed control. Contains some hyphenated chemical I've never heard of.

I have not had my dogs get sick from the yard granules, so far. I've been using them for five years. Fleas aren't good for them, either, nor are the tapeworms that come from the fleas. Plus we have problems with fire ants, so I would be spreading some kinda chemical around even if we didn't have dogs, know what I mean?
I have heard of nematodes that eat flea larvae or flea eggs, but I have never used them and can't recommend for or against. The yard granules work well for us. In the past, I've used some that contained time-release permethrin, iirc. They also worked and were pretty cheap, but I had to reapply a couple times during the warm season.
Diatomaceous earth did not work, although people who have used it claim it does. Down here in the South, we've got super-bugs, don't we? LOL.

You might consider something quick-kill on the dogs until the yard granules take effect. I think you can powder them with Sevin dust 5% even if they've got Frontline or Advantix on, but *ask your vet to be sure.* Sevin dust is cheap - $5-7 for a big bag, and fairly innocuous as chemicals go. Get a bag of it from the garden supply section, not the little shaker canister for pets, and you'll save money. Just make sure it's the 5% DUST. It contains Carbaryl.
In my chemical arsenal, I usually have a bottle of 10% permethrin from the feed store. You dilute it way down (read package directions), and it kills fleas on dogs, bugs on plants, what-have-you.
If you have flea problems indoors on your carpets, get boric acid powder. A generic type is okay; it should be very fine powder, for killing roaches. Flea Stoppers is one brand, but it's more expensive. If they've got it on the shelf, though, read the label and apply the generic stuff the same way. You should be able to find boric acid powder for less than $10 a pound.

Sprinkle it on your carpets from a low height and work in well with a broom. Not a ton of it, but about 2-3 times as much as you'd use carpet freshener. You can vacuum - it doesn't all come out. When we lived in a carpeted house, once a year treatment kept fleas from breeding indoors. Do not apply to pets.
Good luck!
flick 100785
Diddy,
No, I have not tried dust baths of anything. Thanks for the tip I will look it up and go for it,
Be Free..Judy
Flick,
Thanks for all of the detailed information. I will check it out and I guess take a chance with using some form of the chemicals you suggested in the yard. My friend has been insisting that is the answer and I have resisted. He is going to love knowing he was right. Man O man the ones on Jack's belly are huge. I didn't even know they were fleas at first.
It is amazing that they are not in the house or on me. The first sign of fleas I usually get bitten and have huge sores. I have got fire ants too but we avoid each other.
I did not want to have to use chemicals but I do not want the dogs to suffer or become ill as a result. Plus, I do not like flushing my money down the toilet that I spend on Advantix. It is 80.00 a month for the four of them.
Thanks again Flick for the detailed info. I am on it. I know Florida is yucky but we have been back down here for 8 years and no problems. I guess it is the younger dogs causing the problem. They are outside more. In and out..in the summer I keep the AC cranked down and no one goes out doors. Maybe that will help as summer is almost here.
Be Free..Judy
Flick,
Since you are a Southern woman I gotta tell you. My Grandmama used to sprinkle Chlorodane (sp) around our house like it was aromatherapy. In the corners, in the closets no roaches, no ants, no bugs at our house. That was way back in the day...as you probably know Chlorodane is outlawed nowadays.
I have an auto-immune disease..think there is any connection?:) Oh yeah, and then there was the mosquito spraying trucks. We would ride our bikes and breathe in the fog like fools.
Can't forget the fruit spray planes the would come over to kill the fruit flys etc
I guess those are some of the reasons why I was reluctant to use chemicals in the yard but I have no choice it is open war. Thanks again.
Be Free..Judy
My experience with fleas in New Orleans is that nothing worked altogether but a number of things helped:
1. Terrazo or wood floors. No carpets.
2. If you must have carpets, put down Borax one day, vacuum the next,then try poisons. Do something in the direction of flea control on the carpets at least weekly. Try to vacuum every day or every other day.
3. Put Sevin dust in the bag of the vacuum cleaner. Or burn the bagsso the fleas don't decide the vacuum cleaner bag is good place to set up housekeeping and produce eggs.
4. Everything that applies to carpets goes for upholstered furniture aswell.
5. If you can possibly throw it in a washer and drier, do so. Thisgoes especially for your dogs' sleeping materials. I found that dog beds of towels were good. I washed them every other day.
6. Bathe the dogs in flea shampoo.
7. Between baths, comb the dogs with a flea comb. I used the metalones. I found it oddly satisfying to sit in the bathroom with Genny combing her, then knocking the fleas into the toilet. When done, flush.
8. This is no time to think about natural or organic anything. When itcomes to fleas, the motto is: DIE, DIE, DIE. Use flea collars. Dust the dog if your vet says it's O.K.
Lia
Flick, Since you are a Southern woman I gotta tell you. My Grandmama used to sprinkle Chlorodane (sp) around our ... I was reluctant to use chemicals in the yard but I have no choice it is open war. Thanks again.

LOL Chlordane! I know people who stockpiled the stuff when it was going to be outlawed. Nothing like it for treating termites - lasts about 30 years in the ground as a termite shield.
There are still mosquito trucks here, they even spray by plane in some parts.
In our climate, or yours, I don't think you can control fleas without chemicals.
flick 100785
Hey Diddy,
I decided to post what I found out from the feed store guy about Diatomaceous Earth. You probably already know about it as you inquired as to whether I had used it to dust my dogs for fleas. My guy at the feed store said he did not know anything about dusting dogs with it. He explained that you must cover all of the ground with it and leave it that way for a long period of time (?). He also said it was rather pricey. He said he could not recommend it. I like the idea of it not being poisonous but I do not have the luxury of money or time. Thanks for the FYI.
BTW where are you? Long time no see.
Be Free..Judy
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