Hello everyone,
I'm so happy to have found this group. It's been quite a while since I was on Usenet.
We have a Whippet (Charles) who is going on 2 years old. We got him this summer from a breeder who decided not to show him anymore. He is my 2nd Whippet, though the first is not here anymore.

Since Charles was trained as a show dog, he was crate trained and used to being handled. However since being at our house he has developed a major problem. When we put him in the crate and we are around, he's fine. However, the moment we leave the room, or worse, the house, he completely freaks out. He starts chewing at the crate, chewing at the door, and eventually has an accident in the crate. We are to the point where we are afraid to go anywhere because when we get back we'll have to clean the crate and give him a bath.
We have tried putting him in the crate most of the day (my wife is a stay-at-home mom so he goes out at 8am, noon, 3pm, and then after dinner he comes out for the evening) to get him back to where he was as a show dog, but nothing is working. The crate we use is the same size, shape and color as the crate he was trained in, so it's not unfamiliar to him.
My wife set up a video camera to capture his behavior and I've posted it to my website. Please help. We cannot continue to come home to a poopy crate/dog to clean up. If we cannot solve the problem, we are going to have to send him back to the breeder.
I am hoping someone who has experience with whippets will answer, because they aren't like other types of dogs and many times don't respond the way say a retriever may respond.
The video is located here (its about 4 minutes long - but he does this for nearly an entire video tape):
http://www.fusiondigitalproductions.com/general/PoopyCharles-1.wmv
Thank you for any advice or help you can give.
Paul
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Hello everyone, I'm so happy to have found this group. It's been quite a while since I was on Usenet. ... is located here (its about 4 minutes long - but he does this for nearly an entire video tape): http://www.fusiondigitalproductions.com/general/PoopyCharles-1.wmv
Do you have other dogs, or is Charles now any only dog? If he's by himself, that could very well be the problem. Whippets generally do better in multiple-dog homes than as single dogs. It's possible that Charles' problem is separation anxiety, or maybe it is the crate that's causing the anxiety. Putting him in the crate most of the day "to get him back to where he was as a show dog" is not going to help the situation, and the fact that it's the same type of crate he was in at the breeder's is irrelevant, because he is now in a different environment.

If he's an only dog at your house, this is probably the first time he's been alone, without other dogs around, and that's going to require some adjustment for him. One way to find out whether the anxiety is due to the crate or to being alone is to leave him loose in the house and leave for a short period of time. You can also observe his behavior in the house while you're home - does he follow you from room to room? (This one isn't foolproof, as Whippets are usually Velcro dogs and often follow their humans around.) What happens if you go into another room where he can't see you - does he whine and get agitated? If he really has separation anxiety, you can either train him to accept being alone (get Patricia McConnell's book "I'll Be Home Soon"), or you can get another dog.
Is it necessary to crate this dog while you're gone? If the problem is the crate and not being alone (one of my former show Whippets, who was crated extensively at the breeder's, hates being crated but is very well-behaved loose in the house when we're gone, except for destrying my bedmaking to get under the covers. But we have a multidog home.), you could try confining Charles in a room where he would be safe and unable to do any damage. That can be tricky with a Whippet, though, because a closed door might exacerbate his anxiety, and Whippets generally laugh at baby gates (as they're sailing over them).
Mustang Sally
We are presently training our welsh springer spaniel ..who is a velcro dog !
Hes only 4 months and we have a similar problem.
Our solution was to have a few toys including a food toy. However the best result was also to put a sheet over his crate it seems to quiet him down when we go out.
I also made sure he had a gap for breathing fresh air . When we introduce him to entering the crate we also bribe and reward him with a food treat.
Hope that is of some help in your case with Charles.

NZed
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Hello everyone, I'm so happy to have found this group. ... you for any advice or help you can give. Paul

I would also feed him in the crate. The treats "only" offerings should also be crate related
Thanks everyone.
We tried putting a sheet over him and he pulled it in to the crate and destroyed it.
We feed him only in the crate, and give him a treat for going in to the crate. Toys don't make a difference - he never plays with any toys and could care less about them.
I would love to think that we could trust him loose in the house, but he still has accidents in the house as well. And right now there's no way to try this out a few minutes at a time - it's winter and we have a
4 year old. They've tried to fool him by putting him in the crate andthen pretending to leave, but that's hard with a 4 year old.

Previously we tried reducing his time in the crate to only when necessary and that didn't make a difference. And when we're home and put him in the crate, he's mostly fine.
He doesn't follow us room to room if he's napping. He'll stay on our bed or on the floor of the living room for hours.
Unfortunately the money, time and space are not there for a 2nd dog either.
Thanks for all the help!
Paul
We have tried putting him in the crate most of the day (my wife is a stay-at-home mom so he goes out at 8am, noon, 3pm, and then after dinner he comes out for the evening)

what exactly does this mean? how much of the day is he in the crate? how much of the day is he out? When he comes out of it at the times mentioned above, what does he do before going back in the crate? How long is he out of the crate before going back in it? Is your wife home when the dog is crated?
What the hell is he doing in a crate? Poor thing. I suggest you spend a few hours locked in a box every day when everyone around you is off enjoying life and see how you like it. He just wants to get out and be a dog. You people need to take a long hard look at yourself and your lifestyle and decide whether or not you really need a dog. I can't believe you complain that he 'has an accident' in the crate and you have to clean it out! Ohhh diddums. Didn't you think that he might want to go to the toilet? Morons!
Wow, thanks for the constructive advice. Yes, the crate is a jail, a prison, it's a horrible thing for any animal to be in. Nobody should ever use a crate. It's torture!
Did you watch the video? And who the F*** do you think you are to call us morons? Do you know me? Do you know the situation? Freaking Usenet trolls never do go away, do they?
We can't leave the room for 2 minutes before he TOTALLY FREAKS OUT. Can you get that through your thick head?
The dog needs help so my wife can actually leave the house for more than 2 MINUTES. Right now she can't go anywhere!! He freaks out and poops all over his crate. She's trying to train him to be able to stay in there so when she leaves he doesn't freak out. Your comments do nothing to help at all.
This has nothing to do with him needing to relieve himself. If you actually read (and I'm assuming you can read some of the bigger words - people who attack the way you did often times have trouble with the big words) what I wrote and watched the video you'd understand that he is losing control of his bodily functions.
For everyone else, thank you for the constructive advice.

For you jerk-wad, get out of your mom's basement for a while and socialize with actual human beings.
Hey MauiJNP,
In order to try to get him to settle down in the crate, my wife has tried a schedule. He goes out in the morning between 6am and say 8am, then his in from 8 until noon. Then a lunch break & potty break, then back in until 3pm, then another break, then until dinner. We're been trying to set up a routine so he learns that the crate is nothing to fear, and that he's used to people coming and going while he's in there. He's not being left in there from morning until evening non-stop. But we've been trying to train him to be able to stay in there for about 3 hours, so my wife can go to the grocery without having to come back to a poopy crate and dog every week.

I apologize for those who think we should keep him out of the crate unless we're actually leaving, but as someone who has a degree in psychology it seems like that would actually make the crate LESS desirable than it already is. Feeding him in the crate, giving him treats in the crate and praising him for going in the crate seemed like it would associate positive things with the crate. However, so far he still loses control the moment he can't see or hear us. Which is why I was asking for help from other people who have experience with whippets.
Again I appreciate the positive responses.
Paul
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