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Birds and ferrets in such close proximity to each other ?? Seems this might be a very dangerous (if not ... and ferrets so closely together before actually doing it. Why do I feel this is a disaster waiting to happen?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Ferrets are predators, they were originally domesticated to hunt rabbits and rats, but any small fast-moving critter will do. Domestic ferrets get along well with cats and dogs, but that's because they somehow recognize them a 'littermates' and will socialize with them as they would with us or other pet ferrets. Not so with birds or other small mammals.
Also, no matter how secure you think your cage is, if there is a why for the ferret to escape, it will! They are very smart and curious, and that one inch bar spacing is big enough to let a ferret paw through to catch a yummy flittery thing. A friend of mine lost an orange-winged amazon to her room-mate's pet ferret. The ferret had escaped it's cage and made the bird into one big squeaky toy. An amazon is a fairly large parrot, if one can be made a meal then nothing can protect a little lovebird or finch.

Gloria
Actually my ferrets are tame. The ferrets wouldn't even know the birds were there.. much less be able to get to them.I don't see a problem with this.. bit this may be because I actually own two ferrets. They can be very playful yes. But you also have to remember that some research on predatory ferrets are wild.. not human raised. I've had both of my ferrets since they were babies.. and they live around 2 dogs, 3 cats, a bearded dragon and 3 mice and I've never had a problem with them and being aggressive. We are, of course, very careful with all the animals together..

but mainly with the cats. Especially mine.. he'd just love to get ahold of Spike (bearded dragon) or the mice. But if anything my ferrets will simply sniff the birds and move on because my friends and I made a road trip to our local pet shop with my ferrets and had them around all the other animals (rabbits, mice, gerbils, 3 types of birds, spiders, geckos, more beardies, and snakes) and they were more interested the fish than anything.

Anyways, I appriciate the advise about the actual cage itself. I will definatly work on buying an appropriate cage for my parakeets, because I would never want anything bad to happen to them. Emotion: smile
I'm sorry for your friend's loss. However, my ferrets don't have to escape from their cage.. they are very very domestic.. and sleep with me nightly and crawl around whereever they please. This doesn't mean they are going to eat everything in site. Also ferrets only really use their paws for digging. They aren't like a monkey or a gopher. They can't "grab" they can only claw at things.. But no matter for my ferrets. They wouldn't be able to "grab" the birds anyways because the birds would be out of every other animals reach. Cats are outside, dogs are too small, beardie is in a cage and so are the mice. Emotion: smile
Hi There. I'm very new to this message board type thing, and my name is Lin. Emotion: smile Nice to meet ... of mine suggested Wal-mart, but I figured it would be smart to ask the owner's themselves. Emotion: smile Thanks so much!!!

Linoko,
please pick the bird that you want as a pet first, research its needs and make sure you can supply them, then see to it that it has proper housing and all the things a pet bird needs.
the cost of the proper cage will likely be a very small part of the total cost of ownership over the life of the pet.
as for the ferrets,
even if by some great miracle of master cage building you manage to keep the ferrets from eating the bird,
the bird WILL recognize the ferret as a predator and be *TERRIFIED* of such an excellent predator living that close.
back to my first point, one thing a bird needs is a place that the BIRD thinks is safe. i fear any bird you get will be a nervous, fearful creature and you will be back to this group (and/or spending many at an avian vet) trying to keep the hapless animal in some semblance of good health. and the ferrets will suffer as you spend time and other resources on the birds.
Birds and ferrets do not mix. i do not care how "tame" the ferrets seem to you now. use the money you would spend on birds and associated costs to make the ferrets even more happy.
or spend the money on a new iPod or whatever inanimate toy you desire. or even give it to you favorite charity and have a good feeling inside.

my $0.02 worth
and you did not even have pay for that!
save it for the vet bills,
~steve
Actually my ferrets are tame. The ferrets wouldn't even know the birds were there.. much less be able to get to them. I don't see a problem with this.. bit this may be because I actually own two ferrets.

Stick with the ferrets and forget about birds. You obviously have no idea what ferrets consider prey.
Jill
Actually my ferrets are tame. The ferrets wouldn't even know the birds were there.. much less be able to get to them.

That's actually funny. Ferrets are very curious. They are very smart. They will easily figure out that something is there, even if they don't smell them. Birds make a lot of noise, so how are your ferrets not supposed to figure out that they are there? Every ferret expert I have spoken to, or read, says that birds and ferrets don't mix, and that if you have both you should keep them in seperate rooms.
I don't see a problem with this.. bit this may be because I actually own two ferrets. They can be very playful yes. But you also have to remember that some research on predatory ferrets are wild.. not human raised.

If you knew anything about the domestication of ferrets you would know that they were domesticated, and are still used in some places, to hunt rabbits and rats. Domestication did not remove those instincts.

Also, ferrets have only been domesticated for a four or five hundred years. Cats and dogs have been domesticated for much longer, and many still hunt small (and not-so-small) animals. I have two cats. One lets the birds walk all over him. One would eat them if I let her. Which one do I trust more? (answer below)
I've had both of my ferrets since they were babies.. and they
live around 2 dogs, 3 cats, a bearded dragon and 3 mice and I've never had a problem with them ... gerbils, 3 types of birds, spiders, geckos, more beardies, and snakes) and they were more interested the fish than anything.

And what would you do if you weren't there, and your ferrets decided to prove you wrong? My friend and her room-mate weren't home when the ferret killed her amazon, and until then the ferret acted as yours do. Generally in these stories the owner wasn't around, and didn't notice any aggression until it was too late.
Also, a pet store is a really bad place to test an animal for aggressive behavior. I know, because I work in one. Either the animal is going to be totally freaked because they are in a new place (and therefore might act aggressive when normally they wouldn't), or they are going to be too distracted by all the wonderful smells, sights, etc to really focus on one paticular thing.
Anyways, I appriciate the advise about the actual cage itself. I will definatly work on buying an appropriate cage for my parakeets, because I would never want anything bad to happen to them. Emotion: smile

The bar spacing is too big for parakeets, or even lovebirds. While they probably wouldn't be able to squeeze through, they would be able to get stuck, and could possibly loose a leg, wing, or hang themselves if their head is stuck.
Gloria
(Here's the answer to the question above. I actually trust the 'aggressive' cat more, because I know that she wants my birds, always. The cat that isn't aggressive I do not trust, because he might change his mind one day, or put a foot down wrong, or get chased into a corner by my conure and feel he has to defend himself. Any and all of those situations might happen with your ferrets, as well.)