hey all. haven't lurked in a long time, but the now-year-long quest to choose a species goes on.
i have seen some lovely pictures of various gopher morphs, i.e. san diego high red and applegate albino etc. and was wondering what some gopher owners or anyone with any experience with them thinks of their personality.
can anybody tell me what they think of gophers' personality? i'd like a snake with some pizzazz you know?
thanks so much for your feedback, best group ever
~~other species i've been looking at in order of current preference(feel free to ignore this part!)
*taiwan beauty - always been number one on the list *russian rat snake
*african house snake (an interesting morph like an albino, red, or cinnamon) *a blood python i can afford, like borneo (yes i know it doesn't really fit in the list, forgive me)
price not being an object i would get a woma, or a cave dwelling ratsnake.
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I've got one relatively pleasant gopher female, one Applegate boy who doesn't like me but doesn't want to 'chew his way all the way through', and one albino female who has almost become a snakesicle because I don't function well as a physician with three stubs and a thumb. But she likes my friends.
I will grant I don't 'work with them' enough.
As with individuals, their temperaments and 'voting habits' vary, and they thump their tails 'ferociously', but my experience with them runs across the gamut.
They're temperamentally..variable.
*a blood python i can afford, like borneo (yes i know it doesn't really fit in the list, forgive me)

Hey bluey, nice to see you!!
Borneo short-tails are not blood pythons. Although they both used to be classified as Python curtus (the Borneo being Python curtus breitensteini), the Borneo short tail is now classed as Python breitensteini.
I highly recommend them, mine is my favorite snake out of the whole collection... by a long shot. Emotion: smile My girl is about 10 years old now, 5'2", 27lbs, and very docile. A rescue, of course. Emotion: smile I've met several people with young ones that are all pissy but I personally haven't seen any pissy short-tails.
You should get one! Emotion: big smile
fr0glet
fr0glet

ha how did i know you'd respond to this when i tacked on borneos? thanks for your input. they got added to the list a couple weeks ago when i realized that i'd waited long enough that i could actually afford one now, though i'd always admired them. have you seen those white blood pythons though at vpi? wish i could afford one of those. how do borneo short tails compare to reg'lar old blood pythons? they seem so similar, aside from color.
thanks for the feedback!
My Gopher snakes throw a fit at first, but have never bitten me when taken out of their enclosure.
-cat

fr0glet

ha how did i know you'd respond to this when i tacked on borneos?

Because I'm always going into a dissertation on how much I love my Borneo short-tail??? Emotion: big smile Emotion: big smile
now, though i'd always admired them. have you seen those white blood pythons though at vpi? wish i could afford one of those.

NO! Man oh man, I wish I wish... actually, I always say I only have room in my life for one BIG reptile and that role is filled by Miss Sabba Emotion: smile
how do borneo short tails compare to reg'lar old blood pythons? they seem so similar, aside from color. thanks for the feedback!

Compare their eyes... Borneos have several subocular scales, bloods just have one. There are probably other scale count differences that I don't know about, too.
Not sure about any care differences as I've only kept Borneos... maybe snakelady will chime in. Emotion: smile
JUST ONE PIC!!! It's from March, showing off her fatness...

fr0glet
My gopher is very docile. I would not even think it was W.C. I do try to interact with him often and have had him for about 8 months.

Sting.
In the past I have raised & bred quite a few species of colubrids including gophers. I found the gophers' temperaments to be quite variable. However most when handled on a regular basis become quite tame. I have to admit that while I did raise and breed quite a variety of colubrids including many rats, corns, kings, milks, gophers & pines I found most of them to be very boring. Obviously this is my personal preference after many years (40+) of practicing herpertoculture.

Of the above mentioned snakes I find the Lampropeltis ssp. (milks/kings) to be the most interesting with the corns being the least interesting. In fact I think corns are down right boring. My favorite snakes by far are the boas & pythons. The only advantages I can think of that corns & the like have over boas/pythons is their small size. Being small allows you to keep thousands in a relatively small area & they are also less intimidating especially for newbies than are the larger boas/pythons.

Corns & the like also eat & defecate far less than the larger boids keeping costs & cleaning times to a minimum. Indeed there is a huge difference between owning hundreds of colubirds & hundreds of boids. I started keeping snakes in the late 60's & had my first breeding successes with the colubrids. In fact I didn't find any challange in breeding & raising milks, kings & corns. My interest quickly turned to the big guys. Because despite the colubids' small size, easy care & breeding I found they lacked the awesome personalities of the boas/pythons.

If you could meet the husbandry needs of a Boa constrictor spp. or a Borneo short tail both would make excellent pets that your hobby could grow with & not out grow. However there are some herpers that never out grow the smaller colubrids but for me they're just not "my cup of tea". Give me the big guys despite their increased costs for food & housing as they have far more personality than the little corns, ect. snake lady
I found most of them to be very boring. Obviously this is my personal preference after many years (40+) of ... interesting. In fact I think corns are down right boring. My favorite snakes by far are the boas & pythons.

Maybe because I am new at this I have a different perception. I can see the difference in personalities in each of my snakes and enjoy them all tremendously. Even my 'little nippers' ribbon snakes. I do seem to favor my ball pythons over the others thus far. With the addition of my boa that may change. My boa may still be adjusting to his new home so far he has been very inactive.
Sting
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