OK, I have a question for all of you experiance pet owners. I am looking for the best breed of dog what makes both a good guard dog...AND..is good with young children. Does such a breed exist?

Thank you,
Justin Van Dyken
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OK, I have a question for all of you experiance pet owners. I am looking for the best breed of dog what makes both a good guard dog...AND..is good with young children. Does such a breed exist?[/nq]For the OP - what you are looking for is (and I'm guessing here) more common than you might think. However, it's a much a personal characteristic of an individual dogs as it is a breed. Many dogs become bonded to their children and will go to great lengths to protect them if they perceive a threat. And yet, they can be extremely friendly to people as a whole. I've had mutts that filled this order to perfection. A beagle/lab mix that I had in high school was exactly this.

Couch potato, great dog for walks, not much on ball retrieving but always liked to hang around a group of kids. And yet if someone came to the door, he was always right there - with a low growl when appropriate. The only person he ever bit was a kid in a backyard football game - I had the ball and the kid was trying to tackle me. Left a couple of tooth marks in the kid's rear. Come to think of it - did that make him not so good with kids?
I guess it also comes down to three questions - 1) Are you looking for a guard dog or a watch dog or just one who may be somewhat protective of his pack? And 2) what do you mean by "good with young children"? Does this mean playing with them directly? Allowing them to climb all over him with no teeth bared or warning growl? Or just tolerant of well-behaved children and their friends passing through the house? And 3) What is your experience training dogs and living with them?
I'm NOT suggesting the breed for this person because I don't know anything more about it other than what I just read in the AKC Gazette BUT -

Does anyone know anything about the Beauceron? According to the Gazette article I just read, this breed is both a good guard dog and is good with young children - especially his own. They are also a high energy herding breed - to an extent that rules them out for most households. However, anyone have any personal experience with the breed?

Judy
OK, I have a question for all of you experiance pet owners. I am looking for the best breed of dog what makes both a good guard dog...AND..is good with young children. Does such a breed exist?

What do you mean by guard dog??

Marcel Beaudoin and Moogli
OK, I have a question for all of you experiance ... good with young children. Does such a breed exist?

OK, I should give a little more information. I had a dog a mutt really, rescued him from the pound, he was a sharp/golden retreiver mix. Came out looking just like a pitbull. We had to give him to a family member when we moved out of state. But he was the perfect guard dog. Looked aggresive, wide,musclular, if someone came around that he didnt know, he would show teeth, bark, his hair would stick up. Very mean looking..BUT..he never,ever bit. It was all a big show, and very convicing. All the bennefits of a guard dog..none of the liability. He was great with kids, they could pull his ears, hank on his fur..he didnt care, he loved it. Also, very intelligent, I only had to teach him something once. Damn..I miss that dog..think I am gonna cry. So anyway..

I want a dog just like him..but I cant, he was a mix. So I am trying to find something like him.
Justin
We had to give him to a family member when we moved out of state.

I don't understand how people can do that, but I guess there must be compelling reasons. And, it seems to me that it would have been easier to keep the perfect dog you had, instead of looking for a replacement.
But he was the perfect guard dog. Looked aggresive, wide,musclular, if someone came around that he didnt know, he would ... bit. It was all a big show, and very convicing. All the bennefits of a guard dog..none of the liability.

Most medium-large breeds that are generally good with kids would make people think twice before trespassing on your property. I think the more important questions are what sort of training can you give the dog, how much time can you realistically spend with it, how much exercise will you be able to provide, what sort of dog personality do you prefer, etc. Basically, what kind of dog do you want to share your home with?
He was great with kids, they could pull his ears, hank on his fur..he didnt care, he loved it.

He may not have complained, but I do not believe he "loved" it. Anyway, I wouldn't let my dog be treated that way by kids. If they can't stop themselves from mistreating my dog, then they don't get to be around her.
Also, very intelligent, I only had to teach him something once. Damn..I miss that dog..think I am gonna cry. So anyway.. I want a dog just like him..but I cant, he was a mix. So I am trying to find something like him.

I would be shocked if your local shelters weren't full of dogs like him.

Shelly
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But he was the perfect guard dog. Looked aggresive, wide,musclular, if someone came around that he didnt know, he would ... dog just like him..but I cant, he was a mix. So I am trying to find something like him.

My suggestion is similar to Shelly's:
1 - Go to a rescue organization.
2 - Ask for a big dog that is good with kids.
3 - Train dog to bark/growl/snarl on command.

Marcel Beaudoin and Moogli
My suggestion is similar to Shelly's: 1 - Go to a rescue organization. 2 - Ask for a big dog that is good with kids. 3 - Train dog to bark/growl/snarl on command.

I would personally omit #3. Just the presence of a largish dog is often enough to make people think twice. My own observations are that folks who are leery of larger dogs are plenty intimidated by mine, even though she almost never vocalizes at people. Those who are not leery of larger dogs wouldn't be put off by her if she did bark.

Shelly
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My suggestion is similar to Shelly's: 1 - Go to ... with kids. 3 - Train dog to bark/growl/snarl on command.

I would personally omit #3. Just the presence of a largish dog is often enough to make people think twice. ... leery of larger dogs wouldn't be put off by her if she did bark. Shellyhttp://mysmelly.com#error Mother Ship)http://mysmelly.com#error to Esther)

Shelly, you dont understand because, as you said.. you dont know..so please..withhold judgement. My last dog ran free on
7 acres,he was a big dog that needed space. We moved to a out ofstate subdivision, on a building lot. We gave him to my Uncle who has a 20 acre farm. We were thinking of our dog..not of ourselves. That is why "people, like us" do that.

Justin
Shelly, you dont understand because, as you said.. you dont know..so please..withhold judgement.

Lordy! What judgment? I just said that I wouldn't teach my dog to bark/growl/snarl on command.
My last dog ran free on 7 acres,he was a big dog that needed space.

All dogs need exercise, but no dog needs seven acres to run free on.
We moved to a out of state subdivision, on a building lot. We gave him to my Uncle who has a 20 acre farm. We were thinking of our dog..not of ourselves. That is why "people, like us" do that.

Once again, I wouldn't do what you did. How what I would or would not do is a judgment of your actions baffles me.

Shelly
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